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16 Sep 2010 21:39 |
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My father's half sister Lavinia May Barron was adopted by her aunt and uncle, William and Lavinia Robson. She was born in Iveston, County Durham, England on the 12 April 1900. Her natural parents were William Barron and his wife Caroline Bellerby. Caroline died shortly after the birth. I believe Lavinia May, may have married a Thomas Crisp in the latter part of 1923, if she did they had 3 children all girls - Lavinia E Crisp born 1925 died 1926, Freda Crisp born 1928 and May Crisp born 1930. Lavinia May seems to have died aged 30 shortly after the birth of May. All help would be much appreciated. Ann
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16 Sep 2010 21:46 |
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Ann, can you just go over your post again - might be me but it looks as if you are saying Caroline died around 1900 but also that she married 1923! Not quite sure what info you are after as you already seem to know quite a bit. Jan
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16 Sep 2010 21:47 |
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Got it! You meant Lavinia obviously:
Marriages Dec 1923 (>99%) Crisp Thomas Robson Lanchester 10a 622 Robson Lavinia M Crisp Lanchester 10a 622
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16 Sep 2010 22:44 |
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Name: Lavinia May Barron Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Lanchester (1875-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 353
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16 Sep 2010 22:46 |
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1911 ROBSON, William Head Married M 53 1858 Surveyor Inspector Rate Collector Northumberland Hedley VIEW ROBSON, Lavinia Wife Married 24 years F 52 1859 Durham Annfield Plain VIEW ROBSON, Lavinia May Adopted Daughter F 10 1901 School Durham Iveston VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 29889 Reference: RG14PN29889 RG78PN1730 RD550 SD2 ED12 SN343 Registration District: Lanchester Sub District: Consett Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Iveston Address: West View County: Durham The Robsons had been married for 24 years and had no natural children
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16 Sep 2010 22:53 |
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she left a will Name: Lavinia May Crisp Probate Date: 10 Dec 1930 Death Date: 5 Sep 1930 Death Place: Durham, England Registry: Durham
Crisp Lavinia May of 8 Grosvenor Terrace Consett county Durham (wife of Thomas Crisp the younger) died 5 September 1930.Probate Durham 16 December to the said Thomas Crisp (the younger) colliery clerk.Effects £661.3s.2d
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16 Sep 2010 22:58 |
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1901 Name: William Barron Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Stoney Hey, Durham, England Civil parish: Iveston Ecclesiastical parish: St Ives County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:Iveston
Occupation:shifter underground
Condition as to marriage:widower
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Consett ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 140 Household Members: Name Age William Barron 27 Elizabeth Athey 51 servant
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4669; Folio: 93; Page: 25
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16 Sep 2010 23:02 |
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Name: William Barron Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Lanchester (1875-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 563 Caroline Bellerby
where does the half brother fit in ? take it that William remarried as he was only 27 when he was widowed??
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16 Sep 2010 23:04 |
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is this the second marriage? Name: William Barron Year of Registration: 1904 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Lanchester (1875-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 550 Isabella Glendinning or Edith Elizabeth Proud
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16 Sep 2010 23:06 |
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so it was Edith Elizabeth! 1911 census BARRON, William Head Married M 37 1874 Farmer Durham Iveston VIEW BARRON, Edith Elizabeth Wife Married 6 years F 27 1884 Durham Iveston VIEW BARRON, Annie Daughter F 5 1906 Durham Iveston VIEW BARRON, Joseph Son M 3 1908 Durham Iveston VIEW BARRON, Mary Daughter F 1 1910 Durham Iveston VIEW PROUD, Minnie Sister-In-Law Single F 21 1890 Assisting On Farm Durham Castleside VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 29891 Reference: RG14PN29891 RG78PN1730 RD550 SD2 ED14 SN154 Registration District: Lanchester Sub District: Consett Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Iveston Address: Bank Farm Iveston Leadgate County: married 6 years 3 children
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16 Sep 2010 23:11 |
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so caroline was living with her uncle on the 1891 census pre her marriage Name: Caroline Bellerby Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Iveston Ecclesiastical parish: Leadgate St Ives Town: Iveston County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:Iveston ???? Farm
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Consett ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Robson 26 occ joiner & Farmer Lavinia Robson 33 John Pearson 16 farm servant Caroline Bellerby 15
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4092; Folio 100; Page 9; GSU
would guess she was related to Lavinia Robson side Edit see the 1881 census!!
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16 Sep 2010 23:16 |
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1881 Name: Lavinia Bellerby Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Michael Bellerby Mother's Name: Louisa M. Bellerby Gender: Female Where born: Lanchester, Durham, England Civil parish: Iveston County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Iveston Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Milliner (Apprentice) Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Michael Bellerby 64 Louisa M. Bellerby 65 Lavinia Bellerby 23 Thomas Bellerby 60 Carrie Bellerby 5 grandaughter!!
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4948; Folio: 111; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1342189.
Would guess she was in fact Lavinia Bellerby's illigitimate daughter
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16 Sep 2010 23:20 |
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Name: Lavinia Bellerby Year of Registration: 1856 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Durham (1837-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 327
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16 Sep 2010 23:21 |
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Name: Caroline Bellerby Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Stockton County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 10a Page: 104
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16 Sep 2010 23:22 |
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Name: Caroline Barron Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 25 District: Lanchester (1875-1938) County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 190
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16 Sep 2010 23:43 |
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Lavinia may have had 3 children Name: Lavina E Crisp Mother's Maiden Surname: Robson Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1925 Registration district: Lanchester Registration county: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 582
Name: Lavinia E Crisp Death Registration Month/Year: 1926 -dec qtr Age at death (estimated): 1 Registration district: Lanchester Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 312
Name: Freda Crisp Mother's Maiden Surname: Robson Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1928 Registration district: Lanchester Registration county: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 498
Freda may have died too Name: Freda Crisp Death Registration Month/Year: 1928 -Sept qtr Age at death (estimated): 0 Registration district: Stockton Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 64
Name: May Crisp Mother's Maiden Surname: Robson Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1930 Registration district: Lanchester Registration county: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 536
Name: May Crisp Death Registration Month/Year: 1930 -Sept qtr Age at death (estimated): 0 Registration district: Lanchester Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 277
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17 Sep 2010 00:01 |
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Freda however may not have died PM.d a poss marriage and two children born
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17 Sep 2010 03:55 |
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A bit off-topic but...
There are 2 Edith Elizabeth Proud's with pob=Castleside.
The elder rego'ed 1882q1 d/o John Gedling Proud & Margaret Jane Bowey wed Frederick William Iley in 1902q3.
Our Edith rego'ed 1882q3 d/o Joseph Proud & Mary Jane Iley is with her aunt in 1901
1901 England Census Civil parish: Iveston Ecclesiastical parish: St Ives County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Iveston Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Consett ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 107
William Johnston 61 Beeston, Durham, England Head M Farmer Sarah Johnston 53 Maggleswick, Durham, England Wife M Edward Johnston 23 Freston, Durham, England Son M Farmer's Son Sarah A Johnston 28 Lesdgate, Durham, England Daughter-in-Law M Edith E Proud 17 Castleside, Durham, England Niece S James Craggs 19 Coxhoe, Durham, England Servant S Horseman on Farm Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4669; Folio: 90; Page: 20.
Her sister Minnie is with mum & dad.
1901 England Census Civil parish: Knitsley Ecclesiastical parish: Castleside St John and Consett Christchurch County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Consett Park, 9 Oliver Ter Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Consett ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 140
Joseph Proud 46 Greencroft, Durham, England Head M Stock taker, Steel Mills Mary J Proud 47 Hownes Gill, Durham, England Wife M Joseph Wm Proud 19 Castleside, Durham, England Son S Commercial Clerk Dora Proud 16 Castleside, Durham, England Daughter S Ernest Proud 13 Castleside, Durham, England Son S Messenger, Steelworks Minnie Proud 11 Castleside, Durham, England Daughter Ada Proud 9 Castleside, Durham, England Daughter Hilda Proud 6 Castleside, Durham, England Daughter George Gley [Iley] 43 Rowley, Durham, England Brother-in-Law S Steelworker Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4667; Folio: 136; Page: 22. Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4667; Folio: 137; Page: 23.
Here's dad in 1861
1861 England Census Civil parish: Muggleswick County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Calfclose Hill Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: Lanchester ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Household schedule number: 167
Joseph Proud 41 Stanhope, Durham, England Head M Leadminer Elizabeth Proud 42 Haydon, Northumberland, England Wife M Sarah Proud 13 Muggleswick, Durham, England Daughter U Hannah Proud 10 Muggleswick, Durham, England Daughter Scholar Joseph Proud 6 Lanchester, Durham, England Son Scholar Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3735; Folio: 88; Page: 33; GSU roll: 543179.
Some marrs from the local index at: http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/
Surname Forename(s) Year District ILEY Mary J 1880 Durham Western PROUD Joseph 1880 Durham Western Register No. - Entry No. - District R45/AUCK - 114 - Durham Western (1880)
Surname Forename(s) Year District JOHNSON William 1864 Durham Northern PROUD Sarah 1864 Durham Northern Register No. - Entry No. - District DNCHH2 - 308 - Durham Northern (1864) [I think CHH is the All Saints Lanchester register]
Surname Forename(s) Year District PROUD Edith E 1904 Durham Northern BARRON William 1904 Durham Northern Register No. - Entry No. - District DNRLAN48 - 104 - Durham Northern (1904)
[so this was probably either a rego office or an RC marr]
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18 Sep 2010 15:29 |
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William re married to Edith Elizabeth Proud on the 3rd of November 1904 at Wes./Meth. Chapel,Lanchester. Their youngest son and therefore half brother of Lavinia May Barron, is my father Stanley Barron.
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18 Sep 2010 15:36 |
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Lavinia Robson and Caroline Bellerby were sisters. 1901 census has their mother living with Lavinia, her husband William Robson and baby Lavinia May Barron.
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