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Barbara
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5 Sep 2008 21:22 |
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I am trying to find any info on Robert Orr married to Louisa Goodman Robert 1875-1949 Louisa 1880-1935 Cheers
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Penny
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5 Sep 2008 21:27 |
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where? where did they marry?
where were they born?
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BatMansDaughter
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5 Sep 2008 21:27 |
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Hi,
For info;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bryant Emmanuel Aston 6d 608 Goodman Louisa Harriet Aston 6d 608 MALPASS Roseanna Aston 6d 608 Orr Robert Aston 6d 608
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Andrew
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5 Sep 2008 21:28 |
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Marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Goodman Louisa Harriet Aston 6d 608 Orr Robert Aston 6d 608
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CLW2005
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5 Sep 2008 21:29 |
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Name: Robert Orr Year of Registration: 1903 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Aston (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 608 (click to see others on page)
Name: Louisa Harriet Goodman Year of Registration: 1903 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Aston (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 608 (click to see others on page)
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BatMansDaughter
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5 Sep 2008 21:30 |
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Hi,
Would you think Orr is a scottish name??
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 21:31 |
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1901
ame: Louisa H Goodman Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Erdington, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Sutton Coldfield Ecclesiastical parish: Boldmere St Michael County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Aston Sub registration district: Sutton Coldfield ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 210 Household Members: Name Age Alan S Davis 4 Louisa H Goodman 21 Nellie E Titmus 15 Isabel D Wilson 5 Isabel L Wilson 35 Percy B Wilson 34 Percy R Wilson 10 months
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5 Sep 2008 21:32 |
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Possible children,
Births Dec 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORR Doris Louisa Aston 6d 416 ORR Phyllis Ellen Aston 6d 416
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1908 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Orr Thomas Oakley Aston 6d 372
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Andrew
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5 Sep 2008 21:34 |
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Possible for Louisa with parents and siblings
1881 England Census about Louisa Goodman Name: Louisa Goodman Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Erdington, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Holly Cott. Holly L. Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Aston Sub registration district: Aston Manor ED, institution, or vessel: 56 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Martha Cook 18 Elizabeth Goodman 31 Elizabeth Goodman 7 Louisa Goodman 1 Robert Goodman 34 Robert Goodman 5 Andy
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 21:43 |
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Possibly in 1891:-
Name: Louise H Goodman Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: Erdington, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: Erdington Town: Erdington County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Occupation:
Registration district: Aston Sub registration district: Erdington ED, institution, or vessel: Sir Josiah Masons Orphanage
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 21:48 |
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Possibly brother Robert in 1891:-
Name: Robert Chas Goodman Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Erdington, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Harborne Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Kings Norton Sub registration district: Harborne ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert John Dodd 12 Florence A Dodd 14 Frank Dodd 2 Harry George Dodd 9 John Dodd 37 Susan Dodd 40 Robert Chas Goodman 15
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 21:52 |
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Sister Elizabeth in 1891, so looks as though the parents died some time between 1881 and 1891:-
Name: Elizabeth M Goodman Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Erdington, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: Erdington Town: Erdington County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Occupation: General Servant
Registration district: Aston Sub registration district: Erdington ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert B Batty 39 Elizabeth M Goodman 17
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 21:56 |
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Possible death for Robert:- Deaths Jun 1881 Goodman Robert Thomas 34 Aston 6d 204
but can't find death for Elizabeth?
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 22:08 |
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There is this Elizabeth in 1891, but where does Ellen come from?:-
Elizabeth Goodman abt 1850 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Aston, Warwickshire (Widow) Ellen Goodman abt 1878 Erdington, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston, Warwickshire Lily Goodman abt 1886 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston, Warwickshire Mary Pembleton abt 1851 Ayms Alsy, Staffordshire, England Sister Aston, Warwickshire John Satchwell abt 1853 London, England Lodger Aston, Warwickshire
Mariage for Robert and Elizabeth:-
Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%) GOODMAN Robert Birmingham 6d 273 COOK Elizabeth Birmingham 6d 273
so the Martha Cook in 1881 census us probably a relative, sister or niece of Elizabeth.
so this census may not be correct as the sister here is named Pembleton (unless it is her married name)
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 22:14 |
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Could be Robert in 1901:-
Name: Robert C Orr Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Ulverston, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Coventry Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Occupation: Railway Clerk
Registration district: Coventry Sub registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 56 Household Members: Name Age Robert C Orr 26 George Osborn 69 Helen L Osborn 21 Sarah Osborn 67
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 22:22 |
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If this is the correct one, then this looks like him in 1891:-
Bertha Orr abt 1886 Samdside, Westmorland, England Daughter West Broughton, Lancashire Cordelia Orr abt 1873 Connty Galway, Ireland Daughter West Broughton, Lancashire Earnest Orr abt 1878 Samdside, Westmorland, England Son West Broughton, Lancashire Emily Orr abt 1881 Samdside, Westmorland, England Daughter West Broughton, Lancashire Honore Orr abt 1884 Samdside, Westmorland, England Daughter West Broughton, Lancashire James Orr abt 1876 Barrow, Lancashire, England Son West Broughton, Lancashire Mary Orr abt 1846 North, Wales Wife West Broughton, Lancashire Robert Orr abt 1875 Ulverston, Lancashire, England Son West Broughton, Lancashire William Orr abt 1844 Comthy Galway, Ireland Head West Broughton, Lancashire (Railway Station Master)
If this is the correct family then it looks as though the name is not French or Scottish, but Irish!!
You can confirm all this info by buying the marriage certificate. It will give both his and her fathers names and professions.
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Catherine
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5 Sep 2008 22:27 |
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Hang on! So this is why Ellen was not on the 1881 census:-
Name: Ellen Goodman Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Erdington Civil Parish: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 38 Cambridge St
Registration district: Birmingham Sub registration district: Lady Wood ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Broughton 34 born: Birmingham Thomas Broughton 44 born: Birmingham Thomas Broughton 5 Ellen Goodman 3
marriage for above couple:- Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%) Broughton Thomas Birmingham 6d 177 Cook Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 177
so Mary Ann was probably Elizabeth's sister.
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