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family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 22:29

Can anyone help?
I am trying to find any information for Joseph Noble, born West Yorkshire
( I think).
My Great Grandfather was John Noble born Morley West Yorks. 1865 married to Edith Noble (nee) Sheard about 1888 and lived in Brighouse. My Grandfather was Stanley Noble born Brighouse 1900

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jan 2011 22:37

so where does Joseph figure then?

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 19 Jan 2011 22:39

Is this the family in l9ll - they state they have had eight children, and four have died - Liz


1911 census - household transcription
Person: NOBLE, Stanley
Address: 88 Bradford Road Brighouse


NOBLE, John Head Married M 46 1865 Stone Miner Morley Yorkshire VIEW
NOBLE, Edith Wife Married
23 years F 42 1869 Clifton Yorkshire VIEW
NOBLE, Clara Daughter Single F 21 1890 Silk Doubler Brighouse Yorkshire VIEW
NOBLE, William Son Single M 19 1892 Engine Cleaner Brighouse Yorkshire VIEW
NOBLE, Frank Son M 13 1898 Gardener Brighouse Yorkshire VIEW
NOBLE, Stanley Son M 10 1901 Brighouse Yorkshire VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
26382 Reference:
RG14PN26382 RD496 SD1 ED14 SN67

Registration District:
Halifax Sub District:
Brighouse Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Brighouse

Address:
88 Bradford Road Brighouse County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Jan 2011 22:40

Stanley Noble

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 21 Apr 1900
residence: Brighouse, York, England
parents: John Noble, Edith Noble

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Stanley Noble
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 30 Jan 1901
baptism/christening place: Brighouse, York, England
birth date: 21 Apr 1900
father's name: John Noble
mother's name: Edith Noble
indexing project (batch) number: C01733-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 22:50

Hi Ann many thanks for all that, you where pretty quick, i do have all that so far but, it is John's parents that i am trying to find

Kind regards
Janet

patchem

patchem Report 19 Jan 2011 22:58

Have you got John's marriage certificate for Father's name and occupation?
And/or his birth certificate?
Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 19 Jan 2011 23:04

In 1891 there are 2 John Nobles, both born 1865 Churwell. One is married to Eda with daughter Clara, as in 1901. The other is unmarried with Father Joseph.
You need that marriage certificate.

family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 23:05

No at this moment, but John was a stone mason

family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 23:07

It is the one married to Eda and they did have a daughter Clara

patchem

patchem Report 19 Jan 2011 23:10

Both John's in 1891 are stone miners.
My point is that you were asking about Father Joseph, that one John with Father Joseph in 1891 is not married.
So why did you think Joseph was the Father with no marriage certificate?

family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 23:16

I think my John was born in Morley, I applied for a copy of John & Eda's marriage certificate, it named Joseph as his father, but, when I applied for Joseph & Ann's marriage certificate they could not trace it

patchem

patchem Report 19 Jan 2011 23:29

1891 England Census
John Noble
Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eda Noble Gender: Male Where born: Churwell, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hipperholme With Brighouse Ecclesiastical parish: Brighouse Town: Brighouse County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England Street address: 31 Bradford Road
Occupation: Stone Miner
Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Brighouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 11

John Noble 26
Eda Noble 22
Clara Noble 1

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3584; Folio 52; Page 49; GSU roll: 6098694.

1891 England Census
John Noble Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Noble Mother's name: Ann Noble Gender: Male Where born: Churwell, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Batley Ecclesiastical parish: Parish Church All Saints Town: Batley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Street address: 10 Jacob Street Wood Well
Occupation: (cloth weaver crossed out) stone miner
Registration district: Dewsbury n Sub-registration district: Batley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Joseph Noble 51
Ann Noble 47
John Noble 26
Henry Noble 20
Emma Noble 17
Ann Noble 14
William Noble 11
Matthew Noble 7

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3718; Folio 49; Page 18; GSU roll: 6098828.

family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 23:32

When I applied for John & Eda's certificate it named a Joseph as John's father, I searched the name Joseph Noble and found one married to an Ann, so I then applied to Halifax Reg. Office for a marriage certificate for Joseph & Ann Noble but they could not find one.

family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 23:38

Many Thanks, I will now once again apply for Joseph's and Ann's marriage certificate, however, the Reg. office returned my cheque the last time?

patchem

patchem Report 19 Jan 2011 23:39

No marriage showing, if you applied for this one it is not a match:
Marriages Mar 1864
Bennett Ann Huddersfield 9a 546
Greenwood Zilpha Halifax 9a 546
Hollas William Henry Halifax 9a 546
Noble Joseph Halifax 9a 546
Whitehead Mary Halifax 9a 546

patchem

patchem Report 19 Jan 2011 23:42

Joseph and Ann in 1871:
1871 England Census
Joseph Nelle
Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Nelle Gender: Male Where born: Honley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Morley Ecclesiastical parish: Morley Town: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Morley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 226

Joseph Nelle 34 High Street Coal Miner
Ann Nelle 24
John Nelle 6
Henry Nelle 5 Months

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4577; Folio: 46; Page: 36; GSU roll: 847252.

family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 23:43

Getting confused now...

patchem

patchem Report 19 Jan 2011 23:48

Joseph and Ann's son Henry, for mother's maiden name:
Births Mar 1870
NOBLE Henry Dewsbury 9b 627
(Churwell comes under Dewsbury)
but not necessarily correct family.

family79

family79 Report 19 Jan 2011 23:58

I'll try and search for information on Henry and see what I can come up with, although the the names Joseph , Ann and Henry Nelle have cropped up a lot through out my searches.

patchem

patchem Report 20 Jan 2011 06:50

If Henry were 5 months on 1871 census,then that is not his birth. Bother.