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Thanks Rootgatherer, I do have the marriage and birth certificate for Charles Henry Dyas. I am going to order the birth cert for Maud Marion Wells. It might take a bit of time, but it will give me a bit more to go on.
I don't know how you all do this its difficult for me just doing my family but you all do it for other people.
I hope that one day I will be able to return the favor...
Bye for now
Sandra PS. I'm getting quicker at typing though. It used to be just 2 fingers.

Well Charles seemed to be away from the family home at the time of the 1911 census

HOUSEHOLD DYAS HENRY M 1861 50 Horncastle Lincolnshire

living with

HOUSEHOLD DYAS HAROLD M 1906 5 Horncastle Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD DYAS MABEL F 1902 9 Horncastle Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD DYAS MARY ANN F 1867 44 Horncastle Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD DYAS MAUD MARY F 1890 21 Horncastle Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD DYAS NORAH F 1906 5 Horncastle Lincolnshire

Here's Henry with his parents in 1871

Name: Henry Dyas
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Raithby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Beelsby
Town: Beelsby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Caistor
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
John Dyas 47 Ag. Lab
Hannah Dyas 45
Mary A Dyas 22 Invalid
James Dyas 14
Jane Dyas 12
Ellen Dyas 10
Henry Dyas 8
Sarah Dyas 7
Eliza Dyas 7


All born in Lincolnshire



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
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Atkinson Hannah Louth 14 904
DYAS John Louth 14 904


John and Hannah were still alive in 1901
Name: John Dyas
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Raithby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Manby
Ecclesiastical parish: Manby St Mary
Town: Manby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Louth
Sub-registration district: Saltfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
John Dyas 76 (Cottage) Farmer
Hannah Dyas 75
Arthur Sidney Codd 12 Grandson, Horseman on Farm

If you haven't already done so, buy Charles's marriage certificate to confirm that you have the correct birth. (It certainly looks like the only possible one on freeBMD, assuming that the correct dates of birth are correct on the headstone)

From his marriage certificate you can cross check his father's name and occupation.


Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Dyas Charles H Wells Boston 7a 989
Wells Maud M Dyas Boston 7a 989


Again, if you don't already know, the marriage certificate will tell you if his or Maud's father is deceased.

Hi Rootgatherer ,All I know of my dad's dad, is that he was born Charles Henry Dyas on 28/02/1887 and died 19/02/1971. He married Maud Marion Wells Born 28/03/1890 and died 14/09/1972. I was nearly 20 when my grandad died and they lived in Lincoln all that time and for as long as I remember. The info of birth and death was on their grave stones. Where they where born I have no idea. I wish that I had asked these questions when they where alive.. I don't know for sure if they had sibling. I do know that my grandad was a Signal man, but I don't know where. They had four children Charlie, Harold, Edgar ( my dad ) and Phyllis.
Hope this makes sense. I have got other info from Threads that I have placed. But deciphering it I find mind boggling.

Hi Sandra

Don't belittle yourself, we all had to start somewhere. It's like any hobby - you get better as time goes on. These boards are all about sharing what we have learned over the years.

I'm a wee bit concerned that you have said that the information that you gave was from the "birth cert of what I think is my Grandad". From his marriage certificate did the name and occupation of his father match that same information from the birth certificate that you have? Sorry if I am being picky here, just want to make sure that you have the correct people in your tree.

Hi thanks for that Viv, or should I say wonder woman. I new that was not how you spell technology but the more I wrote it down and scrubbed it out again, the more it looked completely wrong. So I sent it anyway even though I made a pigs ear of it.
I am good at some things you know, but none of them are to do with computer technology or crime investigation. But every name I am researching feels like its Smith and Brown because of my lack of knowledge on the subject. Thats why I,m going to join a Family History group when I can find a good one in my area.
Many thanks takecare.
Sandra

Hi Sandra to answer this question..

No wonder I can't find stuff , it must be because you all have Degree's in History research, computer technowledgy, crime invetigation and more... Am I right?
Sandra:¬))

I am rubbish at computer technology ,but with the lack of info you gave us to go on I asked for the power of mind reading, to get the knowledge of the family stored in your memeory that you hadnt given us ,and look...,,it worked ;:)

So I am well on my way to being Wonder woman!
Along with many others on here,although some might be Wonder Men of course.
happy hunting
viv

Edit,,,but as rootgatherer said if it had been Smith and Brown we would have needed a Miracle to get anywhere;)

Thanks for the tip rootgatherer. I slipped up when typing it out. Don't worry though coz I slapped my own wrist and told myself to do better next time lol..
Thank you for your help though coz your name often pops up during my searches.
Sandra

Hi Sandra - That's ok as Viv found the marriage. Just a tip, if you had put the year of birth for their son, it would have given a rough time scale. Perhaps not so important in this case with two not very common surnames but had the surnames been Smith and Brown .......... well it just doesn't bear thinking about!

Good luck with your research.

Hi rootgatherer, I don't have any more info, other than that which is on the birth cert of what I think is my grandad. Mother Mary Ann Dyas nee Scarbro Father Henry Dyas ( Farm Labourer) their son Charles Henry Dyas born 28/02/1887 in Winceby.
Sandra

Thanks to Vivienn.......& Barbara from Yorkshire, Sylvia in Canada. That all looks promising thanks for all your help.
No wonder I can't find stuff , it must be because you all have Degree's in History research, computer technowledgy, crime invetigation and more... Am I right?
Sandra:¬))

I have just recieved a birth certfor my grandad who was born 28/02/1887 in Winceby. His mother Mary Ann Scarbro who married Henry Dyas. I don't know when the parents of my grandad were born or where they lived.
Sandra

Unsubstantiated information from www.familysearch.org ..... not to be trusted until and unless you can find the documentation


Mary Ann Scarbro Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 1866 , Lincoln, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: John Scarbro Family
Mother: Elizabeth Johnson

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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

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Source Information:
No source information is available.



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Mary Ann Scarbro Pedigree
Female Family

Event(s):
Birth: 1866 , Lincoln, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: Henry Dyas Family
Marriage: 14 OCT 1884 , Lincoln, England

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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

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Source Information:
No source information is available.






sylvia

hiya Viv!


and we are all believing that you found the correct marriage!!



good job that Mary Ann Scarbro is a relatively uncommon name :)))



sylvia

Poss birth

Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
Scarbro Mary A
Horncastle 7a 474

What you mean no info Sylvia??
I,me, myself did provide it with the marriage for ref.
Viv blows on nails...

Good ere aint it?

SNAP!!!



amazing what we can do with no information!!

Is this them in 1891???


1891 Census

Name: Mary Ann Dyas
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Mareham Le Fen, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Asgarby
Ecclesiastical parish: Asgarby
Town: Asgarby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Horncastle
Sub-registration district: Tetford

Henry Dyas 30 b.ca 1861, Raithby by Lowth, Lincolnshire, Ag Lab
Mary Ann Dyas 27
Hannah Dyas 5
Charlie Dyas 4
Richard Dyas 3
Maud Mary Dyas 1
Fanny White 10 Visitor

Address:- Asgarby Farm




sylvia

If that 1891 is correct ,mary ann in 1871

1871 England Census
about Mary A Scarbro
Name: Mary A Scarbro
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Betsy
Gender: Female
Where born: Mareham Le Fen, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Mareham Le Fen
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Horncastle
Sub-registration district: Tattershall
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
John Scarbro 43
Betsy Scarbro 44
John Scarbro 14
Charles Scarbro 11
George Scarbro 9
Fred Scarbro 7
Mary A Scarbro 4
Morriss Scarbro 2
Elizabeth Scarbro 1 month



The 1881 census is free to search.