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I'm looking for an entire family who seem to have disappeared between the 1901 and the 1911 Scottish census.

They are:

Isabella and William Malcolm and their children Louisa 1890, Isabella1893, Johann 1895 and Annie 1899.

They were on the 1901 census as being in Aberdeen and I have birth certificates for Louisa and Johann and the marriage certificate for Isabella and William.

There's anecdotal evidence that members of the same family (cousins etc) emmigrated to Australia or Canada. I've checked what records I can (including the Scotish census and whatever shipping records I can find for free) but am drawing a blank. A whole family can't simply have disappeared, surely?

Any tips? I've run out of money now so I can't do anymore census checks.

I presume this is the family? I cant see what you are hoping to find between the censuses except for BMDs


1901 Scotland Census
about Isabella Malcolm
Name: Isabella Malcolm
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Keith, Banffshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Holburn
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 263 Union Grove
ED: 37
Household schedule number: 194
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_58
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Malcolm 35
Louisa Malcolm 10
Isabella Malcolm 7
Johan Malcolm 5
Annie Malcolm 8mo

I note that Isabella is the head of the household in 1901. Was she a widow. Had she re-married by 1911 and was living under a different name?

I'm hoping to find *anything* to be honest. There's not a shortage of information about them until 1901 and then they just disappear. A death or a marriage or *anything* would be useful. I need to know where they were (particularly Louisa) in 1911/1912. I spent a small fortune on the census yesterday but none of them were on it.

There were people saying yesterday that all of the Scotish 1911 is not online yet

Scotlands People is the place for BMD as Im sure you know

If the whole of the census isn't online then they should have said that.befroe taking people's money really. How many poeple have wasted a good deal of money looking for people who haven't been put on the system yet? I hope there's complaints.

I can't afford to give any more money to Scotlands People. I was hoping someone on here would have access to shipping records or something and could check for me. Oh well :)

I can't locate her on the shipping records or any of the children..

Thank you very much for looking.

It's pretty frustrating this genealogy lark, isn't it? :D I've got 2 Louisa Malcolms and if one was definitely NOT in the country or had married before 192 I could eliminate her from my search. It's driving me a teeny bit batty.

Stacey

I dont know if the lack of census is correct, its just what was said yesterday

If it is true.....then yes, its bang out of order

I've emailed them to ask if it's all online yet. It'll be interesting to read their reply.

Good girl....let us know the outcome

x

Well, I've had a response and they claim that the whole census is online....

What was Isabella's maiden surname please?

1891 - Looks like William worked away from home so Isabella may not be widowed in 1901.

Name: Isabella Malcolm
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Keith, Banffshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 58 Claremont St
Occupation: Joiner's Wife
ED: 27
Household schedule number: 160
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_53
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Malcolm 25
Louisa Malcolm 10 M

I can only see 1 Louisa malcolm b. 1890 on the 1891 and 1901 census. The other Louisa that I see was born in 1893. There is only 1 death on SP for a Louisa Malcolm b 1890 +/-1 year. Of course this could be a Louisa who married a Malcolm.

EDIT

She died in Edinburgh in 1954 so you would be able to view the death online to see if it is your Louisa?

Hi rootgatherer - thanks so much for looking. Isabella's maiden name was Donald. Hmm - the Louisa Malcolm who was born in 1893 would have been 19 when my nana was born so I'm guessing it's not her, though I suppose it's not entirely out of the question.

The only information I have about her is that she was a domestic servant and that she was in Aberdeen for some part of 1911/1912 because my nana was born 5th May 1912. We know she was concieved in Aberdeen so my Louisa would definitely have been there.

I'm finding this all terribly confusing and was hoping that one of the Louisa's (there's an English one as well) would have either shown as being a domestic servant in Aberdeen in 1911 or was out of the country completely so I can rule them out.

I think being a private detective would be easier :D
Thank you for your help.

Well, I have had a look at deaths on Sp for Isabella Malcolm born 1866 +/- 2 years and there are none with Donald as another surname. So I wonder if your family did move from Scotland?

So Louisa was your great grandmother please?

Are we not even sure that the Malcolm family above are the correct family?

Is it possible that you G Grandmother claim poor relief if she was unmarried?

Yes, someone called Louisa Malcolm is on my Grandmother's birth certificate. It just says Louisa Malcolm Domestic Servant. My grandmother was put into Nazereth House orphanage soon after she was born and never knew her mother. She did reunite with her fathers family when she was 14 though.

I've been researching rhe Malcolms above because they had a Louisa who would have been the correct sort of age and I was waiting for the 1911 Scottish census to come out to see where that particular Louisa was. It was quite surprising to not find *any* of them on the 1911 census. I've found someone on here who has a link to the family above and she said that a lot of that particular family (cousins etc) emigrated to Canada and Australia so I guess it's likely that they could have also done the same.

There is another Louisa born in 1890 and she is on the English 1901 census and the English 1911 census as being in Weymouth. She is listed as being Domestic Servant on the 1911 one. Her mother and her older brother are listed as being born in Scotland so I suppose it's not onconceivable that she could have gone to Aberdeen after the census.

My grandmother was born in 6 Castle Terrace in Aberdeen which I found out was a maternity hospital. From googling it does seem to have a number of unmarried mothers giving birth there so I wonder if it was especially for unmarried mothers.

I'm not aware that Louisa would have claimed any poor relief because she gave my grandmother away very soon afetr she was born. I'm guessing she then carried on working, either in Aberdeen or that she moved away.

There certainly doesn't seem to be any anecdotal evidence within the family that Louisa was ever seen again by them.

I'm working on the 1890 ones because they're all I've found so far. I guess she could have been younger or older but there don't seem to be many women called Louisa Malcolm.

Have you managed to find your Grans father in 1911 - just wondering if that would give an area to look for Louisa?


Poor Relief records may be worth a try unless of course her family paid for her stay in hospital. I would think though as you Gran was placed in an orphanage / childrens home the poor relief is worth a try.

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I have been to those archives (same reason, trying to track illegitimate children) and the Archivist was very helpful. It may be worth giving them a call for advice.