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Linda
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13 Jul 2008 21:52 |
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Hello, not sure if anyone could help. but i am trying to find a marriage(if there was one at all)between these two people caroline Julia miller. date of birth abt 1861
and Charles henry griffiths no date of birth that's about as much as i know also have some of their children.place of birth is Devonport Plymouth:
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MrsBucketBouquet
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13 Jul 2008 22:01 |
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Are you sure of Carolines Surname? Could this be her 2nd Marriage maybe?
Found this marriage..
Marriages Jun 1897
Balsom Mary Plymouth 5b 572
>>>Griffiths Charles Henry H Plymouth 5b 572
>>>Martin Caroline Plymouth 5b 572
PIDGEON Walter William Plymouth 5b 572
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ChristineinPortugal
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13 Jul 2008 22:06 |
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Is this the family in 1901?
1901 England Census
about Caroline Griffiths
Name: Caroline Griffiths
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles H
Gender: Female
Where born: Coryton, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Griffiths 36
Charles H Griffiths 29
Francis C Griffiths 3
Flora Martin 28 servant
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2094; Folio: 59; Page: 33
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MrsBucketBouquet
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13 Jul 2008 22:10 |
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Birth reg...
Caroline Julia Miller
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stoke Damerel
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 320
Devonport, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
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His birth??
Charles Henry Griffiths
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Exeter
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 101
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Linda
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13 Jul 2008 22:15 |
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Hi i believe this is the same person thank you, but i think she remarried after Charles died or maybe divorced but i don't think there divorces then was there? Linda
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13 Jul 2008 22:28 |
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what years do you have for there children?
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Linda
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13 Jul 2008 22:45 |
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Mary martha griffiths 1885. Bessie griffiths abt1888.
then Frances bertrice 1889. ledia louisa griffiths 1883
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ChristineinPortugal
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14 Jul 2008 07:23 |
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Do you have any of the children's birth certs?
I don't see any of them on Free BMD.
Do you mean you believe the Caroline birth reg is the correct one and when do you think she remarried?
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Pam
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14 Jul 2008 08:48 |
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Falmouth births for Griffiths:
First name(s) District Vol Page
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Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
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Griffiths Caroline Alice Falmouth 5c 183
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Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
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Griffiths Mary Martha Falmouth 5c 160
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Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
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Griffiths Hester Fanny Falmouth 5c 166
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Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Griffiths Bessy Falmouth 5c 162
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Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
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Griffiths Frances Beatrice Falmouth 5c 161
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ChristineinPortugal
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14 Jul 2008 09:01 |
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I was looking in Devon not Cornwall so that's why I couldn't find them.
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Dea
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14 Jul 2008 09:07 |
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Me too Christine!!!
It still doesn't add up though.
The 1901 census posted above does not have all the children and I believe I have traced that Caroline all the way back to her birth - parents James + Ann, and she was ALWAYS a 'Martin !!
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Dea
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14 Jul 2008 09:08 |
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This would be them then on 1891:
Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Caroline J
Gender: Female
Where born: Mulberg Square; Falmouth
Civil Parish: Falmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Falmouth
Town: Falmouth
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub registration district: Falmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bessie Blanch Griffiths 3
Caroline J Griffiths 35
Frances Beatrice Griffiths 2
John James Griffiths 9 *mistranscribed - NOT Griffiths
Ledia Louisa Griffiths 8
Mary Anna Griffiths 38 *mistranscribed - NOT Griffiths !!
Mary Martha Griffiths 6
William Westcott 45
at 14 Beacon St. - Caroline is a widow!!!
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1834; Folio 61; Page 27; GSU roll: 6096944.
Source Information:
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Pam
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14 Jul 2008 09:08 |
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1891 England Census
about Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Name: Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Caroline J
Gender: Female
Where born: Mulberg Square; Falmouth
Civil Parish: Falmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Falmouth
Town: Falmouth
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: 14 Beacon Street
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub registration district: Falmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Bessie Blanch Griffiths 3 b. Coastguard Station, Falmouth
Caroline J Griffiths 35 Widow Charwoman
Frances Beatrice Griffiths 2
Lidia Louisa Griffiths 8 b. Coastguard Station, Ireland
Mary Martha Griffiths 6 b. Coastguard Station, Falmouth
Also living at 14 Beacon Street:-
William Westcott 45 Boarder
Mary Anna Long 38 Wife (transcribed as Griffiths)
John James Roberts - Son 9 (transcribed as Griffiths)
Fair amount of mistranscription on this entry !!!!
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Dea
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14 Jul 2008 09:16 |
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Did you note that the eldest - Ledia was born in Ireland !!
Perhaps the marriage took place there?
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OOOpps - Pam has just added that info above !
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Pam
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14 Jul 2008 09:34 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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>>>>Griffiths Caroline Julia Falmouth 5c 299
>>>>Radmore James Falmouth 5c 299
Root Samuel Falmouth 5c 299
Welch Beatrice Mary E Falmouth 5c 299
Above 1901 entry for Caroline Griffiths is the wrong one.
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Pam
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14 Jul 2008 10:48 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Name: Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 3
District: Falmouth
County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 131
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Pam
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14 Jul 2008 10:51 |
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1901 England Census
about Bessie Griffiths
Name: Bessie Griffiths
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Falmouth, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Ilford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Barkingside and Ilford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
Registration district: Romford
Sub registration district: Ilford
ED, institution, or vessel: Dr Barnardos Home
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
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Pam
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14 Jul 2008 11:01 |
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A possible for Mary Martha
1901 England Census
about Mary M M Griffiths
Name: Mary M M Griffiths
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Falmouth, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Littledean
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Dean St Ethelbert
Town: Littledean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Sub registration district: East Dean
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Mary M M Griffiths 18
Ada A Roskelly 53
Charles J Roskelly 54
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Pam
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14 Jul 2008 11:02 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
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DAVIES Thomas Richard E. Stonehouse 5b 671
Griffiths Mary Martha E.Stonehouse 5b 671
Richards Annie E. Stonehouse 5b 671
Vickery Vernon John E. Stonehouse 5b 671
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Pam
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14 Jul 2008 11:13 |
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I think this is Caroline on the 1901 census
1901 England Census
about Caroline J Radmare
Name: Caroline J Radmare (Radmore?)
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England
Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline J Radmare 40
James Radmare 31
James Radmare 7
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