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I am looking for birth details of my grandmother Agnes Ann Dunning.
Contacts through Genes Reunited have suggested that Agnes Dunning (Hunter) was the daughter of George Dunning b 1842 and Agnes Ediker b 1841 and that the age on the census etc was wrong.
If this were true Agnes’s age at marriage and death was also wrong and she would have been 51yrs and 55yrs when her youngest children were born – unlikely!

This is what I know for sure.
She married William Hunter on 10th November 1895, St James’ Church Fulham, aged 20 yrs.
Residence: 1 Goldings Cottages, Fulham
Father: George Dunning a carpenter.
Witnesses: Rosenia and Emmanuel Tyne.
Agnes Ann Hunter died 4 October 1939 aged 64yrs, interred at Fulham Cemetery (In Memoriam card).
1901 Census
William 27yrs and Agnes 26yrs were living with their children at 1 Goldings Cottages, Fulham.
Her mother also Agnes Dunning aged 50 a widow and her sons George 30yrs and Louis(Lewis) 19yrs were living in the same house, but as a separate household.
1891 Census
George 49 yrs and Agnes Ann Dunning 49 yrs were at 1 Goldings Cottages, Fulham with Children Alfred 19yrs, Agnes15yrs, Charles12yrs, Lewis 11yrs

Agnes had 8 children born between 1896 and 1917 but one died as a baby.
She had a sister known as Rose, probably Roseina/Rosenia Tyne, a witness at her marriage
Sorry this is so long but please can anyone claim a connection with my Agnes or suggest how I can find her birth details.

1891 England Census
about Agnes Chandler
Name: Agnes Chandler
[Agnes Dunning]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 1 Goldings Cotts.

Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Chandler 60
Emma Chandler 48
Jane Chandler 14
Fred Chandler 13
Joseph Chandler 7



George Chandler 49 Carpenter
Agnes A Chandler 49
Alfred Chandler 19
Agnes Chandler 15
Charles Chandler 12
Lewis Chandler 11


Census is mistranscribed as Chandler but definately reads Dunning for the family of George and Agnes and they are living at 1 Golding Cotts. on this census. All born Chelsea except George.

Thanks for the information.
I have already found this, but I'm trying to find a birth record for about 1875 in the hope of finding her mother's maiden name. Maybe she is related to the family of George Dunning and Agnes Ediker but her age makes me feel it is unlikely that my Agnes, is Agnes Ediker's daughter Agnes born in 1862. Surely in the early 1900s women were not giving birth at 51yrs and 55yrs!

Has anyone evidence of another George and Agnes Dunning in London about 1880 - 1901?

Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)

Dunning George Chelsea 1a 356
Ediker Agnes Ann Chelsea 1a 356
Ediker Agness Ann Chelsea 1a 356

the marriage of george and agnes right where it should be going on the 1891 census?

agneses sister?

Births Jun 1870 (>99%)
Dunning Roseina Chelsea 1a 270

I don't understand why you say that the age is wrong for the mixtranscribed census. That Agnes is born about 1876 which would make it the right one if she marriaed when she was 20.
You have to remember that a lot of people could'nt read or write in those years. So that way they would'nt know if their names were spelt right or not and thats why we get different spellings of names.

The census that was transcribed as being wrong with the Chandler family was also in a different street to Goldings and someone has just not looked at it propery.

This could be Georges birth and Christening.


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GEORGE CORNELIUS DUNNING Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 07 JUN 1838

Christening: 18 JUN 1845 Saint John The Baptist, Shoreditch, London, England

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Parents:
Father: SAMUEL CORNELIUS DUNNING Family
Mother: SOPHIA

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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Hi Mel

I have no disagreement with the details on the 1901 or 1891 censuses, but I keep getting matches with Agnes Dunning who was George Dunning and Agnes Ediker's daughter. This is where the ages of the 2 Agnes Dunnings do not match.

I'm interested in George Dunning ,son of Samuel and Sophia and will follow that up - many thanks

wont the roseiana dunningbirth certificate help to give the parents of agnes or do you think they may have had different parents?

Thanks Vivienne,

I hadn't thought of that. It's certainly a possibility.

Emanuel's marriage to Roseina Agnes's sister


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Emmanuel Tyne
Name: Emmanuel Tyne
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Fulham
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 605



Rosenia Dunning 1894 Fulham Greater London, London, Middlesex

Emmanuel Tyne 1894 Fulham Greater London, London, Middlesex

Susan you say in your first posting that the age of Agnes junior is wrong but I don't see that at all. It is right because she was born in 1875 or 6. Where did you get 1862 from????????????

The family is at the same address through years why should it not be your Agnes as she is on the 1901 census with husband and children living in her mothers house at 1 Goldings Cotts.

i must say i wondered also where the 1862 came from

1861 England Census
about George Dunning
Name: George Dunning
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Midd, Chelsea

Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:Riley St.

Occupation: George is a Jopiner


Registration district: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea South
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101a
Household Members: Name Age
George Dunning 20 1842
Agnes Dunning 20 1842
George Dunning 6 Mo

Thanks Vivienne I thought it was just me!!

Susan do you know who Roger is who also has Agnes in his tree? Could it be your brother?

Hi Mel and Vivienne
Thanks for all your efforts

George Dunning born 1841 was married to Agnes Ediker and I keep coming back to the fact that their daughter is the wrong age to be my grandmother, but wherever I search I can't find another George and Agnes Dunning, and these are definitely the names of my great-grandparents. I've toyed with the idea that my grandmother did not give birth to the last 2 children but adopted/brought them up as hers, but the family resemblance is too great .
I shall definitely look at the birth certificate/parish register for Roseina her sister.

in the mean time if anyone has any more information about the Dunnings of Goldings Cottages (1891 - 1901) I shall be most interested.

Yes Mel
I am in touch with Roger; he is connected to Agnes Ediker and gave me a lot of information until I realised that the ages didn't appear to fit.

As families seemed to 'recycle' names I'm hoping that somewhere there will be a connection to George Dunning and Agnes Ediker - cousins maybe,
otherwise this strand of my family tree seems to be lost prior to 1891.

Sue, just seen this thread. Have been in contact with Alan Smith thro' GR and have added some Dunnings to my tree. What do you think.......?

Diann

Sue, also had a message from Roger Shaw, via hot matc hes, who has given me some info on the Dunning family. Is this the same Roger you have been in contact with?

Diann