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Lilian Maud Crane

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Susan

Susan Report 22 Jun 2010 11:03

trying to find any information about Lilian Maud Crane Born abt 1877 she past away in 1954, married Ernest William Pooley in 1913 on their wedding certificate she had put her father down as Daniel Crane (deceased) his occupation/profession states Sexton, Cannot seem to find any information on herself or her father.
Any help would be grateful

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jun 2010 11:05

born where?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 22 Jun 2010 11:05

Possibilities:

Births Jun 1877 (>99%)
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CRANE Lilian Maud R Hitchin 3a 355

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Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
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Crane Lilian Maud C Islington 1b 319

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jun 2010 11:06

Thats the problem i cannot find her.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jun 2010 11:06

could this be her? 1879 dob on the 1881 census

William CRANE Head M Male 40 Heyingham Machinist
Amelia CRANE Wife M Female 34 Little Fransham
Ella E. CRANE Daur Female 7 Great Fransham Scholar
Amelia C. CRANE Daur Female 5 Great Fransham Scholar
Edward W. CRANE Son Male 4 Great Fransham
Lilian M. CRANE Daur Female 2 Great Fransham
Sarahann POWLEY Serv Female 17 Little Fransham General Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling Nr.Railway Bridge
Census Place Great Fransham, Norfolk, England
Family History Library Film 1341477
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1981 / 40
Page Number 4

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jun 2010 11:07

1878 dob on the 1881 census

Frederick CRANE Head M Male 50 London, Middlesex, England Cab Driver
Sarah CRANE Wife M Female 42 Sandy, Bedford, England
Hannah CRANE Daur U Female 20 Islington, Middlesex, England Confectioners Assistant
Louisa CRANE Daur U Female 18 Islington, Middlesex, England Artificial Florist
Fanny CRANE Daur Female 16 Islington, Middlesex, England Machinist
Olive CRANE Daur Female 12 Islington, Middlesex, England Machinist
Frederick CRANE Son Male 14 Islington, Middlesex, England Milk Carrier
Alice CRANE Daur Female 9 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Charles CRANE Son Male 6 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Lilian CRANE Daur Female 3 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 167 Liverpool Buildings
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341049
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0226 / 101
Page Number 85

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jun 2010 11:12

we're working in the dark here until you give us a location

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jun 2010 11:15

Maybe her father Daniel past away before she was born, and mother remarried then.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jun 2010 11:20

1881

John POOLEY Head M Male 30 Needham Market, Suffolk, England Shepherd
Mary A. POOLEY Wife M Female 35 Creeting St. Mary's, Suffolk, England
Alice J. POOLEY Daur U Female 14 Neeton, Suffolk, England Domestic Servant Unemployed
James J. POOLEY Son Male 10 Needham Market, Suffolk, England Scholar
Eliza POOLEY Daur Female 8 Creeting All Saints, Suffolk, England Scholar
John W. POOLEY Son Male 6 Wordwell, Suffolk, England Scholar
Ernest W. POOLEY Son Male 2 Chippenham, Cambridge, England
Herbert POOLEY Son Male 1 Chippenham, Cambridge, England


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Source Information:
Census Place Chippenham, Cambridge, England
Family History Library Film 1341401
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1680 / 6
Page Number 6

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jun 2010 11:21

Susan - please answer the question - where was she born

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jun 2010 11:23

LILLIAN MAUDE ROBINS CRANE Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 29 JUL 1877 Codicote, Hertford, England
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Parents:
Mother: EMILY CRANE Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jun 2010 11:29

I don't know where she was born, all i have is the wedding certificate, and last known place she was living and that was Great wakering Essex.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 22 Jun 2010 11:34

On her marriage certificate is she described as a spinster and is a specific age at the time given?

Also what was shown as her address?

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jun 2010 11:38

Yes she is described as a spinster and age is down as 36years old, address at the time was Dines Row Southchurch

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 22 Jun 2010 11:41

Maybe the father was "Invented" to possibly cover the fact that she was born illegitimate, it did happen.

Here is a possibility. The daughter on the record is unmarried

1881:
Name: Lillie Maud Crane
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Codicote
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: New Town
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Crane 58
Sarah Jane Crane 22
Lillie Maud Crane 4

>>I note that that Lillie would have had an uncle Daniel:

1871:
Name: Daniel Crane
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Codicote
Town: Codicote
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 68
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Crane 50
Emily Crane 14
Sarah Crane 12
Daniel Crane 8
Mary A E Crane 4
William Welch 39
Amelia Welch 23



Susan

Susan Report 22 Jun 2010 11:49

That could be a true, i will keep looking something will make sense just may take a little longer than i thought.
Thankyou all for all the help.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jun 2010 11:56

that seems to be the one I posted with mother Emily, but no father mentioned

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 22 Jun 2010 12:19

May be coincidence but you never know:

1881:
Name: Daniel Crane
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Ayott St Peter
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: New Farm
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cowman (Ag)

Registration district: Hatfield
Sub-registration district: Welwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Garratt 47
Mary Ann Garratt 35
George Medcraft 67
Emily Crane 24
Daniel Crane 17

1891:
Name: Daniel Crane
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Ayot St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Ayot St Peter
Town: Ayot St Peter
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Domestic servant

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hatfield
Sub-registration district: Welwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Crane 27
William Jefferis 23
Philip Philpott 18


1901:
Name: Daniel Crane
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Codicote
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
Town: Codicote
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Gardener and groom (Domestic)

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Crane 37
Mary Ann Crane 34 (Sister)
Thomas Whit Crane 11 (Nephew)



Deaths Jun 1905 (>99%)
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CRANE Daniel 41 Biggleswade 3b 192