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Jonesey
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22 Jun 2010 12:19 |
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May be coincidence but you never know:
1881: Name: Daniel Crane Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Ayott St Peter County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: New Farm Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Cowman (Ag) Registration district: Hatfield Sub-registration district: Welwyn ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Garratt 47 Mary Ann Garratt 35 George Medcraft 67 Emily Crane 24 Daniel Crane 17 1891: Name: Daniel Crane Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Ayot St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: Ayot St Peter Town: Ayot St Peter County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Domestic servant
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Hatfield Sub-registration district: Welwyn ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Daniel Crane 27 William Jefferis 23 Philip Philpott 18
1901: Name: Daniel Crane Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Codicote Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles Town: Codicote County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Gardener and groom (Domestic)
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Hitchin Sub-registration district: Baldock ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 103 Household Members: Name Age Daniel Crane 37 Mary Ann Crane 34 (Sister) Thomas Whit Crane 11 (Nephew)
Deaths Jun 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CRANE Daniel 41 Biggleswade 3b 192
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AnnCardiff
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22 Jun 2010 11:56 |
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that seems to be the one I posted with mother Emily, but no father mentioned
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Susan
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22 Jun 2010 11:49 |
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That could be a true, i will keep looking something will make sense just may take a little longer than i thought. Thankyou all for all the help.
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Jonesey
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22 Jun 2010 11:41 |
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Maybe the father was "Invented" to possibly cover the fact that she was born illegitimate, it did happen.
Here is a possibility. The daughter on the record is unmarried
1881: Name: Lillie Maud Crane Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Codicote County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: New Town Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Hitchin Sub-registration district: Hitchin ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Crane 58 Sarah Jane Crane 22 Lillie Maud Crane 4
>>I note that that Lillie would have had an uncle Daniel:
1871: Name: Daniel Crane Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England Civil parish: Codicote Town: Codicote County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Hitchin Sub-registration district: Hitchin ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 68 Household Members: Name Age Mary Crane 50 Emily Crane 14 Sarah Crane 12 Daniel Crane 8 Mary A E Crane 4 William Welch 39 Amelia Welch 23
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Susan
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22 Jun 2010 11:38 |
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Yes she is described as a spinster and age is down as 36years old, address at the time was Dines Row Southchurch
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Jonesey
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22 Jun 2010 11:34 |
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On her marriage certificate is she described as a spinster and is a specific age at the time given?
Also what was shown as her address?
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Susan
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22 Jun 2010 11:29 |
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I don't know where she was born, all i have is the wedding certificate, and last known place she was living and that was Great wakering Essex.
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AnnCardiff
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22 Jun 2010 11:23 |
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LILLIAN MAUDE ROBINS CRANE Pedigree Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 29 JUL 1877 Codicote, Hertford, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Mother: EMILY CRANE Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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AnnCardiff
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22 Jun 2010 11:21 |
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Susan - please answer the question - where was she born
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AnnCardiff
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22 Jun 2010 11:20 |
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1881
John POOLEY Head M Male 30 Needham Market, Suffolk, England Shepherd Mary A. POOLEY Wife M Female 35 Creeting St. Mary's, Suffolk, England Alice J. POOLEY Daur U Female 14 Neeton, Suffolk, England Domestic Servant Unemployed James J. POOLEY Son Male 10 Needham Market, Suffolk, England Scholar Eliza POOLEY Daur Female 8 Creeting All Saints, Suffolk, England Scholar John W. POOLEY Son Male 6 Wordwell, Suffolk, England Scholar Ernest W. POOLEY Son Male 2 Chippenham, Cambridge, England Herbert POOLEY Son Male 1 Chippenham, Cambridge, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Chippenham, Cambridge, England Family History Library Film 1341401 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1680 / 6 Page Number 6
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Susan
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22 Jun 2010 11:15 |
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Maybe her father Daniel past away before she was born, and mother remarried then.
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AnnCardiff
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22 Jun 2010 11:12 |
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we're working in the dark here until you give us a location
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22 Jun 2010 11:07 |
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1878 dob on the 1881 census
Frederick CRANE Head M Male 50 London, Middlesex, England Cab Driver Sarah CRANE Wife M Female 42 Sandy, Bedford, England Hannah CRANE Daur U Female 20 Islington, Middlesex, England Confectioners Assistant Louisa CRANE Daur U Female 18 Islington, Middlesex, England Artificial Florist Fanny CRANE Daur Female 16 Islington, Middlesex, England Machinist Olive CRANE Daur Female 12 Islington, Middlesex, England Machinist Frederick CRANE Son Male 14 Islington, Middlesex, England Milk Carrier Alice CRANE Daur Female 9 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar Charles CRANE Son Male 6 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar Lilian CRANE Daur Female 3 Islington, Middlesex, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 167 Liverpool Buildings Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341049 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0226 / 101 Page Number 85
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AnnCardiff
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22 Jun 2010 11:06 |
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could this be her? 1879 dob on the 1881 census
William CRANE Head M Male 40 Heyingham Machinist Amelia CRANE Wife M Female 34 Little Fransham Ella E. CRANE Daur Female 7 Great Fransham Scholar Amelia C. CRANE Daur Female 5 Great Fransham Scholar Edward W. CRANE Son Male 4 Great Fransham Lilian M. CRANE Daur Female 2 Great Fransham Sarahann POWLEY Serv Female 17 Little Fransham General Servant
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Nr.Railway Bridge Census Place Great Fransham, Norfolk, England Family History Library Film 1341477 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1981 / 40 Page Number 4
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Susan
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22 Jun 2010 11:06 |
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Thats the problem i cannot find her.
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Jonesey
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22 Jun 2010 11:05 |
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Possibilities:
Births Jun 1877 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CRANE Lilian Maud R Hitchin 3a 355
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crane Lilian Maud C Islington 1b 319
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AnnCardiff
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22 Jun 2010 11:05 |
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born where?
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Susan
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22 Jun 2010 11:03 |
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trying to find any information about Lilian Maud Crane Born abt 1877 she past away in 1954, married Ernest William Pooley in 1913 on their wedding certificate she had put her father down as Daniel Crane (deceased) his occupation/profession states Sexton, Cannot seem to find any information on herself or her father. Any help would be grateful
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