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From Barbara
Hello Mel thank you for your interest and I apologise for not answering sooner. This is all new to me and as I don't put the computer on every day I was a bit shocked to see the replys from you and Linda. I did email Linda last night and received a lovely reply from her today. I have just started researching my fathers (his mothers) side and have just had a trip to Scotland and was able to visit some of the places that my dad grew up but unfortunately didn't have time to research anything properly. John Carey(my gt gt gt grandfather) was of interest because he was involved with the Old Musselburgh Golf Links and his photo is on their website plus in the club rooms which was lovely to see. My information has mainly come from Genes or the LDS site but am thinking of joining Scotlands people or Ancestry. It is all a little overwhelming at times for me and I think I made the mistake of researching all the grandparents at once. Anyway once again my apologies for not answering sooner and for all your help it is very much appreciated.
Regards Barbara Weston (Australia)



Hello Mel
Thank you so much for your lovely reply it is so nice of you to be interested. Have just been on to the thread site and saw the emails from Leonie. Am not sure how to go about using that site so thought I would just use this one. As Leonie said we have ancestors in common and she was a wonderful help in the beginning. I don't like to worry people though and have managed to find out a lot myself but it is the Scottish records that confuse me. Anyway will go on to the site and see what I can find. Won't have much time in the next few weeks though as we are just waiting on a call from our daughter who is expecting her 1st baby tomorrow and she lives 3 hours from Perth so it will be a matter of just jumping in the car and going. Our son who lives in Sydney turns 40 on the 24th so we are hoping that the baby arrives soon so that we can go over and help with the birthday celebrations. Don't know who said once one retired life was a breeze as ours is very hectic.
Anyway once again many thanks and I hope all goes well with your mum, will be thinking of you.
Fond regards Barbara

Morning mum had a bad time at the hosp so may have to spend a lot of time with her today.

Found Thomas's second marriage to Marion but it is a submitted record.

Thomas Carey Pedigree
Male Family


Birth: 1852 Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland


Marriages:
Spouse: Marion Henderson Family
Marriage: 1896 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

I had thought her second name would have been King as the step children's name was King on that census previously put up!!

Hi Mel

Yes it is exciting. I'm sure that all these Carreys in Inveresk are related and we should be able to build up a picture of whose who. I'm guessing that Barbara's John had a few brothers as most of the names are similar in each family. Anyway, Musselburgh wasn't a very big place then, nothing like as many people living there as the main cities.

Good luck at the hospital with your Mum.

I have personal replies from Barbara also but hav'nt the time to put them on today as have trouble with my mum and a hosp. appointment that is going to take all day. Will get back to you lot tomorrow probably.

Am finding this exciting. I saw the Caddie entry whilst looking the other day!!
Mel x

Here's the above family in 1901 but Thomas has remarried.

Name: Thomas Carey
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Marion
Gender: Male
Where born: Musselburgh, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 662/1
Registration district: Bathgate
Civil parish: Bathgate
Town: Bathgate
County: West Lothian
Address: 23 Paulville
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1901_354
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Carey 49
Marion Carey 42
Walter Carey 16
Thomas Carey 14
Robina Carey 12
Jessie Carey 3
Henry Carey 12 months
John King 14 Stepson
Mary King 8 Stepdaughter

Source Citation: Parish: Bathgate; ED: 1; Page: 8; Line: 1; Roll CSSCT1901_354; Year: 1901.


1891

Name: Walter Carey
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Newton, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 696
Registration district: Newton
Civil parish: Newton
County: Midlothian
Address: 25 Adams Row
Occupation: Shcolar
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 34
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1891_368
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Carey 39
Mary Carey 41
John Carey 15
Mary Carey 14
George Carey 12
Euphemia Carey 11
Annie Carey 9
Walter Carey 6
Thomas Carey 4
Robina Carey 2

Source Citation: Parish: Newton; ED: 3; Page: 8; Line: 6; Roll CSSCT1891_368; Year: 1891.

These look to be submitted records but you could check them out on Scotlandspeople. The birth certifcate will give the date and place of the parents marriage.

Results for: Birth/Christening, Midlothian, Scotland, British Isles
Father: Thomas Carrey, Mother: Mary Runciman

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1. Isabella Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1873 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

2. John Archibald Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1875 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

3. Mary Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1877 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

4. George Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1878 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

5. Euphemia Smith Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1880 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

6. Ann Heriot Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 05 JUN 1881 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

7. Walter Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1884 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

8. Thomas Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1886 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

9. Robina Carey - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1888 Newton, Midlothian, Scotland

Since some of your Carreys lived with Janet Tough, this birth may be worth looking at on Scotlandspeople

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JANET TOUGH CAREY Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 12 MAR 1866 Inveresk With Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ROBERT CAREY Family
Mother: ELIZABETH CONDIE OR MC CASKEY

Found it - it was on the 1881 English census (free on familysearch.org). There was a John G, Carey that was an architect but a bit too old and born in Sussex. There was a Scottish John Carrey born in the correct year who was a prisoner in Kent.

Mel

I had a PM from Barbara as follows

From BarbaraThank you for your information. Am very new to this so am not sure quite where to look. John Carey and Ann Heriot were I believe my gt gt grandparents. My grandmother Isabella Ferguson (married Richard Weston) was the daughter of Anne Carey and John Ferguson .Anne Carey was the daughter of Anne Heriot and John Carey. I have this information from The Church of Latter day Saints. My father Richard Weston was born in Musselburgh on the 21/3/1912 to Isabella and Richard and they came to Australia in 1923. I am really looking for any information on the Ferguson and Carey families. Regards Barbara


So now we know what Barbara is looking for and where the info came from.

When I get time, I'll have another look at things.


Leonie

I had absolutely no idea about the caddie! If fact, I thought I had found him elsewhere - must have another look.

Hi

Barbara and I share ancestors and have been in contact before, so I am equally as interested in everyone's response. Also interested to see the different spellings of Tough and also Carey.

Had to laugh at the "par for the course" comment from Rootgatherer as the John G (Glen) Carey in this family was a well known caddie at Musselborough Golf Course. You must have known that!

Anyway, I will prompt Barbara to respond and say what she is looking for in particular. As we are in Western Oz, we are in a different time zone, so the response will probably be posted when you guys are zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz., or at work.

Regards
Leonie

JANET TOUCH Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 MAR 1806 Inveresk With Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN TOUCH Family
Mother: MARION GILCHRIST



Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date

1841

Name: Janet Tough
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland

Civil parish: Inveresk
County: Midlothian
Address: High Street
Occupation: Pauper
Parish Number: 689
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Janet Tough 30
Robert Kerry 20
Thomas Kerry 10
Jean Durie 15
Isabell Durie 15
William Williamson 1 Mo

Source Citation: Parish: Inveresk; ED: 2A; Page: 17; Line: 760; Roll CSSCT1841_128-0207; Year: 1841.

WALTER BARRY CAREY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 13 MAR 1860 Inveresk With Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Parents:
Mother: MARY CAREY Family

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Ooooohhhh.

John G Carey Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 1845 Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland


Parents:
Father: John Carey Family
Mother: Ann Herriot

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

Gosh! Look at this lot with Janet in 1861!!

Name: John Carrey
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Musselburgh, Midlothian
Registration Number: 689
Registration district: Inveresk
Civil parish: Inveresk
County: Midlothian
Address: High Street
Occupation: Labourer (at Brick Work)
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 36
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1861_130
Household Members: Name Age
Janet Tough 55
Isabella Tough 60
Thomas Carrey 30
Robert Carrey 39
Mary Carrey 23
Jessie Carrey 20
Ann Carrey 18
John Carrey 15
Robert Carrey 12
James Carrey 6
Thomas Carrey 9
Ann Carrey 1
Walter Carrey 1

Source Citation: Parish: Inveresk; ED: 6; Page: 8; Line: 16; Roll CSSCT1861_130; Year: 1861.

1871 - Looks like married daughter Ann and two of her brothers.

Name: Ann C Ferguson
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Inveresk, Edinr
Registration Number: 689
Registration district: Inveresk
Civil parish: Inveresk
County: Midlothian
Address: Dumbrae
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 120
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1871_167
Household Members: Name Age
Janet Lough 64
Isabella Lough 72
Ann C Ferguson 28
John Ferguson 29
Margaret Ferguson 5
Ann Ferguson 3
Mary Ferguson 4
John Carrey 25
Thomas Carrey 19

Source Citation: Parish: Inveresk; ED: 3; Page: 22; Line: 21; Roll CSSCT1871_167; Year: 1871.

And she is not answering our questions which is so frustrating!!!!!

This is only a submitted record.

Anne Carey Pedigree
Female


Birth:
Christening: 19 FEB 1843 Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland

Parents:
Father: John Carey Family
Mother: Ann Heriot

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

No she doesn't! Nor does she tell us what information she already has or her sources or where she has already looked - but that is par for the course!!

Barbara dos'nt say what she is really looking for!!