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Have traced my family through records till 1850s when i came across Cornelius i cant find birth records.
i have his wifes death certificate but thats were i got stuck
my mum says his son Daniel was born in Ireland(Moville) can any one help


His wife,s(Rose Ann) Death cert gives her parents names as Daniel Docherty/Jane Docherty( nee Kelly) and husbands name Cornelius Brannan she died June 1882 at age 31 In Greenock Scotland cant find anything else for either of them except their son Daniels(age 28) marriage cert to aMargaret Beaton(age 20)11/05/1904 and Grandsons birth cert(my Grandfather Daniel Docherty Brennan16/01/1906) all were in Greenock

no trace of Cornelius or Daniel before 1882
I did notice that fa slight name change from Brannan to Brennan between Daniels marriage and my Grandfathers birth

What was Cornelius' surname. Have you found him in any census? Do you know approx when he was born?

what does the death cert say???

Hi wifes Death cert gives her parents names as Daniel Docherty/Jane Docherty( nee Kelly) and husbands name Cornelius Brannan she died June 1882 at age 31 cant find anything else for either of them except there sons birth cert

hi margaret
you say you have there sons birth ,can you give details ?

His wife,s(Rose Ann) Death cert gives her parents names as Daniel Docherty/Jane Docherty( nee Kelly) and husbands name Cornelius Brannan she died June 1882 at age 31 In Greenock Scotland cant find anything else for either of them except their son Daniels(age 28) marriage cert to aMargaret Beaton(age 20)11/05/1904 and Grandsons birth cert(my Grandfather Daniel Docherty Brennan16/01/1906) all were in Greenock

no trace of Cornelius or Daniel before 1882
I did notice that fa slight name change from Brannan to Brennan between Daniels marriage and my Grandfathers birth

Maggie

on Daniels marriage cert,it should give fathers name and where from,what does it say???

from margaret

Hi
It only gives the name(Cornelius Brannan) not were he was born
maggie

this is all i can find for daniel( greenock scotland) IGI


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DANIEL BRANNAN Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 13 JUN 1866 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES BRANNAN Family
Mother: CATHERINE MCALLISTER

Margaret...The only Cornelious Brannan that may be a possibilty is as follows 1881 census.

General Prison For Scotland
Perth East
Perth.

Brannan Cornelious. M.28yrs.b.Ireland.

Cannot find a Rose Brannan other than in Greenock b1858 M.to a Sammuel Brannan.

this is the only death i could find for cornelius



Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Brannan Cornelius 34 Burton 6b 232

The district Burton is an alternative name for Burton upon Trent and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Derbyshire and Staffordshire;


if age is correct he would have been born 1855/56 about 5 years younger than rose

Margaret.Have been looking through the 1881 Census and have found the following Dougherty Family from "Moville" listed for West Greenock however it is not the parents of Rose ...possibly another member of the Dogherty family.....

71 Vennell
West Greenock

Dockerty (note the spelling) Henry. 43. M. Causeway lab. b Moville Ireland
Dockerty Bridget. wife. 38. b. Moville.
Dockerty Henry .son. 17 b. Moville
Dockerty Daniel. son. 15 b.Moville
Dockerty Ellen. daughter. 12 b.Moville
Dockerty Rose. daughter. 12 b.Moville (Twins perhaps).
Dockerty Margaret. daughter 10 b Greenock
Dockerty Mary daughter 2 b. Greenock.

Has there been some confusion between the Daniel listed above and the Daniel "Brannan" born Moville...????

The above Henry Dogherty married Bridget (nee Galenagh) Feb 12 1861 in RC Parish of Moville.....

Margaret...Is any of the information supplied relevant as you have not replied ? I do not want to spend any more time chasing through theCo.Donegal and Greenock records if the info.is not of any value.

Sorry feel like idiot didnt realise i was replying wrong way thank you for your help it is really appriciated hope this works

I found Cornelius Brannan in the Prison Census my mum was delighted but still cant find birth records for him or his son Daniel Docherty Brannan my Family has a tradition of using mothers Maiden name as middle name in the next Generataion which still continues today
thats why i was sure i had the right marriage certs for Daniel HE WOULD HAVE BEEN 6 YEARS OLD IN 1881
Also my mum says Cornelius died in the poor house in Greenock but her memory is a bit hit and miss some days

Well we have all been there done it and worn the t.shirt margaret so I wouldnt worry to much...

I have not found the Birth records of Cornelious / Daniel .We also use the Mothers maiden name so its not such a problem for me to work out who belongs to who when you do eventually locate a member of the family! It tends to apply also to Christian names..the only other Cornelious I found (1881) was in Cumberland but his date of birth was 1834..or thereabouts.

Can find no Daniel Dogherty Brannan in my Co Donegal Records or a marriage of Rose to Cornelious....that said the records are not complete and are taken from the original Parish Registers...Dogherty's by the hundreds and also found that the Dogherty's and Kelly's farmed land adjacent to each other...Many of the Brannan's emigrated to the US ......

Will continue looking for Daniel and Corn. They need to be there somewhere..!!

hi margaret family search org pilot site
There is a Cornelius Brannan born nov 1877connecticut residing Hartford city Hartford, Mother Rose Brannan born ireland ,could be a brother of Daniel,No name for father but says father born connecticut

Margaret, is Daniel's occupation stated on his marriage certificate?

Not a brass moulder by any chance?


1891

Name: Daniel Brannan
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/5
Registration district: Blackfriars
Civil Parish: Glasgow St Andrew
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 13/21 James Morrison St
Occupation: Brass Moulder
ED: 54
Household schedule number: 34
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1891_261


The institution would likely be a workhouse.

Morning Margaret....
Have cross referenced Cornelious Brannan (Prisoner Perth) and find that there is an Anne Brannan (nee McClure) b.Ireland also a Prisoner ...so I reckon that may well be CB's wife....!!!
The Brannans and Doherty's are all over the Highlands as well as the Lowlands of Scotland...You might want to check this out....

1881 Census.

19 Claredon St.
Govan

Brannan Cornelious. 50yrs. Coal Dealer b.Ireland
Brannan Bridget (nee McGinnes) wife. b.Ireland
Brannan Charles. son 21yrs. Masons lab. b. Partick
Brannan John son 17yrs. Lab. b.Partick
Brannan Rose daughter 7yrs. b. Partick
Brannan George son 4yrs.b Partick

Bridget and Cornelious were married in Goven 1854.

Do you have the full address of where Rose died. ?
Was Daniel there only child ?

Thank you so much for all this help will check out the info over weekend
AS far as we know Daniel had a sister or sister in law called Janet my mum is the oldest member of our family and remembers her but not if she was Daniel orRose Ann,s sibling

Daniels occupation is quay labourer
Cornelius occupation is Hawker

Daniel had Married an Helen pal***my (cant read IT)who died on 5/06/1902( she died in Prison) he was married twice but Rose ann was Daniels mum

Cant read the address were Rose anne died is there a way i can attach it to this site

Here's another one I was looking whom I might call a quay labourer - in 1901:


Name: Dan Brennan
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 481B/3
Registration district: Polmont
Civil Parish: Grangemouth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: New Docks' G'mouth Hut No 1
Occupation: Navvie
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 62
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_159