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David
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24 May 2009 14:47 |
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I'm trying to find relations of charles banyard, born 1848 died 1880. Especially his parents and siblings.
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KathleenBell
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24 May 2009 14:49 |
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Use the "search trees" facility at the top of the page.
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 16:05 |
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Where was he born?
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 16:06 |
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Is this him ?
Births Mar 1849 (>99%) BANYARD Charles Woodbridge 12 517
The district Woodbridge is in the county of Suffolk
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MargaretM
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24 May 2009 16:19 |
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You don't say where. There's this one on BVRI:
BANYARD, Charles Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 7 Jan 1849 Recorded in: Great Bealings, Suffolk, England Collection: BTs Father: William BANYARD Mother: Maria Source: FHL Film 918667 Dates: 1845 - 1857
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 16:22 |
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The birth is the only one I could find at that time, so "if" that is him then this could be him in 1851
Name: Charles Banyard Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Grandson Mother's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Blakenham, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Claydon County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 31 Household Members: Name Age James Banyard 45 - Head Martha Banyard 22 - daughter Charles Banyard 2
possible that Charles was the illegitimate son of Martha ?
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 16:25 |
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This looks like the same one in 1861 Name: Charles Banyard Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Blakenham Magna, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Great Blakenham Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich County/Island: Suffolk Country: England
Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Needham Market ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 98 Household Members: Name Age Edward Wakeling 39 Mary Wakeling 37 Edward Wakeling 13 Jane Wakeling 10 Charlotte Wakeling 4 John Wakeling 1 Martha Banyard 35 Charles Banyard 12
and this one would be the one from the christening record
1861 Name: Charles Banyard Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Gender: Male Where born: Great Bealings, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Great Bealings County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Woodbridge Sub-registration district: Carlford ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 39 Household Members: Name Age William Banyard 60 - Head Maria Banyard 30 - Daughter unmarried Charles Banyard 12 - noted as son of Maria
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 16:28 |
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1871? Name: Charles Banyard Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Housekeeper Son (Housekeeper) Gender: Male Where born: Blakenham, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Hemingstone Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich Town: Hemingstone County/Island: Suffolk Country: England
Registration district: Bosmere Sub-registration district: Coddenham ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age George Palmer 47 Martha Banyard 40 (noted as unmarried) Charles Banyard 22
Could either of these be correct ?
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 16:51 |
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This is the only death record I could find in 1880
Deaths Dec 1880 (>99%) Banyard Charles 31 Plomesgate 4a 437 The district Plomesgate is in the county of Suffolk
If you buy the cert. it will give the name of the person that registered the death. Could be his wife, if he married or could give some other clue.
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 16:55 |
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There is this marriage in same district as the death, so a good possibility:-
Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%) <<<Banyard Charles Plomesgate 4a 993 Chapman Bathshebah Plomesgate 4a 993 GREEN John Edmund Plomesgate 4a 993 Wares Mary Ann Plomesgate 4a 993
to know who he married you will have to buy the cert. The cert. will also give his fathers name, if known.
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 17:01 |
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These are all births Banyard in Plomesgate between 1872 and 1880, so all possible children of Charles:-
Births Jun 1873 (>99%) Banyard Charlie Edward R Plomesgate 4a 687 xxxx Births Dec 1874 (>99%) BANYARD Louisa Mary Plomesgate 4a 676 Births Sep 1876 (>99%) BANYARD William James Plomesgate 4a 709 xxxx Births Mar 1878 (>99%) Banyard Patience Jane Plomesgate 4a 723 xxxx Births Mar 1879 (>99%) Banyard Thomas Arthur Plomesgate 4a 748 xxxx Births Mar 1880 (>99%) BANYARD George _ickes Plomesgate 4a 786 BANYARD John Riches Plomesgate 4a 786 xxxx
very possible that the second name for George would be Wares, mothers maiden name ?
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 17:07 |
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From this 1881 census I would say that Charles married Mary Ann Wares:-
Name: Mary Ann Banyard Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Aldeburgh, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Aldeburgh County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Kings Head Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Occupation: Innkeeper Registration district: Plomesgate Sub-registration district: Aldeburgh ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Banyard 32 Charlie Banyard 7 William Banyard 4 Patience Banyard 3 Thomas Banyard 2 John Banyard 1 Amy Read 17
Registration district is the correct one for the death record, and children are all born between 1872 and 1880, so looking good.
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 17:20 |
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There is also a birth for a Louisa Mary Banyard but she is not with Mary in 1881 census. Here she is:-
Name: Louisa M. Banyard Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Aldeburgh, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Aldeburgh County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: High Street
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Plomesgate Sub-registration district: Aldeburgh ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Catman 49 Patience M. Catman 51 Louisa M. Banyard 6
If she is with Mary in 1891 then that would prove she is another child, otherwise you would have to buy the cert. or try and make a connection with the name Catman and Banyard or Wikes. The name of the wife her is Patience which is also the name of a child of Mary in 1881 census, so......?
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 17:26 |
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The only one I can't find is George Wickes born 1880 and who looks to be a twin of John. Can't see him yet in 1881 census or find a death record for him.
If I am not mistaken, I believe you have another thread asking for info for the name of Riches ? If so then it looks as though you have a link here as the middle name of John born in 1880 is Riches.
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 17:41 |
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Found the link, here's Mary Ann (Wares) in 1871:-
Name: Mary Ann Wares Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Aldeburgh, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Aldeburgh Town: Aldeburgh County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Kings Head Inn, High Street
Occupation: Innkeeper
Condition as to marriage: unmarried
Registration district: Plomesgate Sub-registration district: Aldeburgh ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 250 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Wares 25 Charles Catmore 39 Patience M Catmore 41
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 17:47 |
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Just had a look at 1871 census and this could very well be Charles in 1871:-
Name: Charles Banyard Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Little Bredy, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Aldeburgh Town: Aldeburgh County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Footman
Registration district: Plomesgate Sub-registration district: Aldeburgh ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Thellman 44 Henretta Thellman 38 Fredericka Thellman 10 Arthur W Thellman 8 Eva Thellman 6 Violet Thellman 3 Katharine Thellman 5 plus lots of other servants
same town as Mary Ann and correct registration district for death.
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Catherine
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24 May 2009 17:51 |
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So if you are sure that the death record is the correct one then I would say that the Charles you are looking for is more likely to be the one with mother Maria and not the one with mother Martha.
I think you need to buy the death cert. to see who registered the death and see the address given at the time of death.
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