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Prime Wardens are to do with companies like Goldsmiths and Basketmakers. Thanks for the info about football refs.

Re David's queries:
I don't think Prime Wardens were Mayors, but I've never heard of a Prime Warden before - maybe he worked at Greenwich and his job was to see that no one pinched or moved the prime meridian.

For refs, try contacting:
http://www.nationalfootballmuseum.com/

Hi, I have written to Andrew and will let you know the response. Whilst searching through my mothers papers, I came across another news cutting regarding William Lewington, Amy's brother, born 1886. It states that he was Prime Warden in London and also that he was a foorball referee and he refereed 27 international matches. Is there a search place for either of these things. ie Mayors of London or Referees?

There is an Andrew on the 1911 census in Canada but he's just a boarder. He's 18 but says born in Scotland and emigrated 1910. Don't think it's him?

Hi Margaret

I dont know too much about Canadian records except what I have picked up reading threads on here

I think 1911 is the last record we are likley to find and it looks like they both missed that census!

Are births/deaths witheld for 100 years...or have I just made that up!

One thing bugging me though. Why cant I find the immigration records of the husband Andrew and his family?

Ginny
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Well, I'm a resident of Canada, Ginny, but, as you can see, not much of an expert. It's just so difficult to access these more recent records over here.

David, this is Amy's mother inlaw. She is going out for a 'visit' to see Andrew Fraser - son. Andrews address is 667 Vaughan Street Toronto Ont;

She is living in Norwich and gives her brother as the English contact

Which means Andrew is still alive, we just need to find Amy???



Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Annie Fraser
Name: Annie Fraser
Gender: Female
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 3 Jun 1932
Vessel: Duchess of Bedford
Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of Bedford' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14778

Same details on this crossing;

Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935
about Annie Fraser
Name: Annie Fraser
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Arrival Port: Toronto, Ontario
Date of Arrival: 3 Jul 1933
Birth Location: Norfolk Eng
Gender: Female
Citizenship: British


If our resident experts on Canada are around maybe they can help.....pleeeease You know who you are!

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Amy's husband and his family before Canada;

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Andrew James Fraser
Name: Andrew James Fraser
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Norwich
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 153 (click to see others on page)






1891 England Census
about Andrew J Fraser
Name: Andrew J Fraser
Age: 10/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ann M
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich

Civil parish: Heigham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Fraser 39 >>>>>>>>>>>Scotish
Ann M Fraser 23
Andrew J Fraser 10/12



1901 England Census
about Andrew J Fraser
Name: Andrew J Fraser
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Heigham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 233
Household Members: Name Age
James Fraser 49 >>>>>Scotish
Annie Fraser 32
Andrew J Fraser 10


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This is VERY doubtful as she would have been 50yrs but Im affraid you have to rule everything in until you can rule it out..as in, you need to buy the marriage cert to see if her father is Andrew James...

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Hazel A Fraser
Name: Hazel A Fraser
Spouse Surname: Needham
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1964
Registration district: Hendon
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 1265
Find Spouse: David J


Just checked, there are children that could be from this marriage so I'm 99% certain its NOT your Hazel grrrrrr

Ginny
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PS Hazel was born 1915 and was 5 years on the immigration record...I got it wrong!

Margaret

You have it right hun so far....I think there might be more

David you really need to reply and put info on here so we can all help

Ginny
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Sent David a PM on how to reply on here as he doesnt know how to

This is getting confusing. Do I have it right?
She emigrated to Canada as Amy Lewington in 1911,
Married Andrew James Fraser, 1914 in Canada.
Returned to England 1920 with daughter Hazel, no husband, intending to make permanent residence in England.
Returned to Canada 1935, alone?
But this in a pm from David

"I have a newspaper cutting with a picture of her meeting the Mayor of Gillingham on a trip she made back to England after 42 years in Canada. There is no date on the paper! She had 7 children and 32 grand children. "

Shes also here arriving in the UK with daughter Hazel age 5 YEARS Going to 194 Napier Rd Gillingham Kent

The intended permanent residence is England...no husband with her



UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Amy Alice Fraser
Name: Amy Alice Fraser
Birth Date: abt 1895
Age: 25
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 15 Sep 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Empress of France
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of France' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 136266

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Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Amy Lewington
Name: Amy Lewington
Gender: Female
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Date of Arrival: 17 Mar 1911
Vessel: Tunisian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Tunisian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4739


The earlier listing is wrong but this looks like her

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Amy Alise Lewington
Name: Amy Alise Lewington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Father Name: William James Lewington
Mother Name: Ann Maton Masters Lewington
Spouse Name: Andrew Jame Fraser
Spouse's Age: 22
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Spouse Birth Place: Norwich Noxford England
Spouse Father Name: James Fraser
Spouse Mother Name: Anna Major Brys Fraser
Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1914
Marriage Place: York
Marriage County: York
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_292

PM from David

New message to Ginny
This appears to be my relation. Lewington was my mothers maiden name and her father was ALfred Martin Lewington Amy's brother.
From David


Her birth

Name: Amy Alice Lewington
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Medway (1837-1941)
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 584 (click to see others on page)

Was looking for the marriage of Amy Lewington to see if we're on the right track, Ginny. Can't find any Lewington/Fraser marriage.
Also can't find birth of Marjorie Fraser with mmn Lewington.

From Margarets lead......

Deleted this ships record..it was wrong



1901 England Census
about Amy A Lewington
Name: Amy A Lewington
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William J
Mother's Name: Annie M
Gender: Female
Where born: Gillingham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Gillingham St Barnabas
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
William J Lewington 38
Annie M Lewington 40
William J Lewington 15
Annie E Lewington 11
Walter J Lewington 9
Alfred M Lewington 8
Amy A Lewington 6
Victor Lewington 5





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Is this her?
1901 census
194 Napier Rd., Gillingham, Kent
William J. Lewington, head, 38, storehouseman Sec. Corps. Society
Annie M., wife, 40
William J., son, 15, shipwright apprentice
Annie E., dau, 11
Walter J., son, 9
Alfred M., son, 8
***Amy A., dau, 6
Victor, son, 5
All born Gillingham except William J., head born Rotherhithe, London.

There's a record of an Amy Fraser, age 38, emigrating to Canada, arriving 11 Jan 1935 at Halifax, Nova Scotia aboard the Montrose.

Do you know when/where she was born

Ginny
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