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This family of Percival (George) Acres disappears from Leicester after 1881. Can anyone tell me what happened to them. I have tried everything including emmigration but to no avail. They are:-
Percival (George) Acres aged 40 (dubious, possibly 50) B.London
Harriet Acres aged 31 (No marriage but poss' nee Buckland. B.London
Louisa Acres Aged 11 (poss' from marriage Carter/Buckland) B.London
George P Acres aged 5 (Birth cert' shows Percival George) B.Birmingam
Ernest Edgar Acres aged 5 (Have Birth cert') B.Birmingham
Ada Madeline aged 2 (Have Birth cert') B.Leicester
Claude P Acres aged 9mos B.Leicester

Percival George Acres (Senior) was a boot maker and is, I believe, one and the same as him with his previous family living in London in 1871.
I cannot find his death or his birth but I know his father was Edward Acres (artist).
P G Acres (Senior)was shown as aged 30 in 1861, 40 in 1871, both in London but aged 40 in Leicester.

The key things I would like to know is:-
When did P G Acres (Senior) die.
What happened to his family in Leicester.

I am reasonably happy about his London family.

I would be very grateful for any help.
Thankyou.

David, just to be clear - is this the right people in 1891, and you have them onwards, in London?

ACRES, Percival George Head Married M 28 1863 Sign Writer Paddington London
ACRES, Harriett Wife Married F 23 1868 Whitbourne Herefordshire
ACRES, Percival Charles Son Single M 0 (6M) 1891 Marylebone London

Registration District: Marylebone Sub District: St Mary Enumeration District: 9 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Luke

Civil Parish: St Marylebone Municipal Borough:
Address: 41, Molyneux Street, St Marylebone County: London

What is the Carter/Buckland marriage you refer to?

Are the ages you are saying is what they were in the 1881 census?

Hello Marie
Yes, this is the son of his first marriage to Annie Grace Doust and I have this and also his other London children.
Many thanks for you response.
David

Hello again Marie
In trying to find the marriage of P G Acres (Senior) to Harriet without success, I looked for the birth of their eldest child Louisa who was born in London and found a parish record of her birth to Buckland/Carter.
The ages of the children are from the 1881 census in Leciester
Regards: David

OK, so for reference this is Percival snr with family in London in 1871, wife must be Annie Grace:

ACRES, P G Head M 40 1831 London << Bootmaker
ACRES, A G Wife F 40 1831 Middlesex ** Annie Grace?
ACRES, A Daughter F 18 1853 London
ACRES, E Daughter F 14 1857 London
ACRES, M Daughter F 11 1860 London
ACRES, P Son M 8 1863 London
ACRES, M Daughter F 4 1867 London

Registration District: Marylebone Sub District: Christchurch Enumeration District: 21 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Marylebone Municipal Borough: London Address: St John Place, Marylebone, London County: London, Middlesex

The Leicester 1881, for cross reference:

ACRES, Percival Head Married M 40 1841 Manager Of Boot Factory London, London Middlesex
ACRES, Harriet Wife Married F 31 1850 Manager Of Boot Factory London, London Middlesex
ACRES, Louisa Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar London, London Middlesex
ACRES, George P Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Birmingham Warwickshire
ACRES, Ernest E Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Birmingham Warwickshire
ACRES, Ada M Daughter Single F 2 1879 Scholar Leicester Leicestershire
ACRES, Glande P Son Single M 0 1881 Leicester Leicestershire (Claude?)
MANARY, Jane E Visitor Single F 33 1848 London, London Middlesex

Registration District: Leicester Sub District: East Leicester Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret Municipal Borough:
Address: 175, Humberstone Rd, Leicester St Margaret County: Leicestershire

David - what is the mother's full name on the birth certificates you have for George, Ernest and Ada.

I'm still not getting the Carter/Buckland connection - was that a previous marriage of Harriet - if so, which one was she?

Is it possible that Percival and Harriet were not legally free to marry?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Annie G Acres
Name: Annie G Acres
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 86
District: Willesden
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 267

Or did he and Annie divorce?

** Need some responses from David before continuing, especially regarding Harriet's name.

But, I found this 1881 - seems it could be the family he left behind:

ACRES, Annie G Head Widow F 56 1825 Kingston Surrey
ACRES, Percival G Son Single M 18 1863 Clerk Paddington Middlesex
ACRES, Annie Daughter Single F 28 1853 Servant Paddington Middlesex
ACRES, Maria A Daughter Single F 16 1865 Paddington Middlesex


Registration District: Marylebone Sub District: Christchurch

Civil Parish: St Marylebone Municipal Borough:
Address: 3, St Johns Place, St Marylebone County: Middlesex

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Widow was the term adopted by women who had been dumped by their philandering husbands. I've tracked this women through to the 1911 census and am sure it's the same one who's death is in 1912 (above). I strongly suspect it is Annie Grace, first wife of Percival.

If Percival & Harriet never married and subsequently parted (or Perc died) and then Harriet remarried, the children could be masquerading under her new name in later census.

Which is why, yet again!, I'm asking David to answer my questions.

Answered my own question!

Harriet Buckland married Robert Carter:

Marriages Sep 1868
Buckland Harriet Marylebone 1a 936
CARTER Robert Edward Marylebone 1a 936

And in 1871, here they are with Louisa (who never really was an Acres)

CARTER, Robert Head M 22 1849 Middlesex
CARTER, Harriet Wife F 21 1850 Middlesex
CARTER, Louisa Daughter F 0 1871 Middlesex

Registration District: Marylebone Sub District: St Mary Enumeration District: 14 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: St Marylebone Municipal Borough: St Marylebone
Address: Homer Row, St Marylebone, London County: London, Middlesex

Hello Marie
You are correct with both the 1871 Census in London and also the 1881 census in Leicester.
The mother's name on the birth certificate for George, Ernest and Ada is Harriet Buckland.

Regarding the Carter/Buckland connection:-
I have no reason not to believe that the Leicester P G Acres is the same as the London P G Acres (both involved in boot making). The only Louisa I can find being born in 1970 is in London Parish births to a Robert Carter and Harriet (Christened 18 Sep 1870 - Born 08 July 1870). This family appear on the 1871 census in Marylebon asfollows:-

Robert Carter aged 22 Cab Drive.r Born Paddington
Harriet Carter aged 21 Tailoress. Born Marylebone
Louisa Carter aged8 months. Born Marylebone

I cannot find the family on the 1881 census. So I believe that P G Acres was possibly having an affair with Harriet.
I cannot find the birth certificate for Louisa Carter. I did however find a birth of a Louisa Buckland but she died in 1871.

Thanks for you continued assistance.
David

Hello Marie
Our messages are overlapping.
Thanks for the marriage info' for Buckland /Carter. I am not sure whether I found this previously.
I have tried to trace the Leicester children under the names of Acres, Carter, and Buckland but without success.
Regards: david

Marie
I forgot to confirm that the Death index you found for Ann Grace Acres is that of P G Acres first wife.
One other thing is that on the marriage certificates of two of his daughters from London it states that their father is dead. These marriages are in 1878 and 1880.
After much searching for P G Acres death without successthis is when I came across his new family in leicester.
It is possible that the children too their fathers leaving very badly. I can understand why.
David

David, I think the key to finding them is to find Harriet. Perhaps look for marriage records for Harriet Carter?

Will chip away and let you know if I find anything.

I wouldn't take it as gospel that he was actually dead at the time of his daughters' marriage. In those days they would sometimes rather say that than acknowledge his existence. Same way that Annie Grace referred to herself as a widow through the subsequent censuses.

I think the Louisa Acres aged 11 in Leicester in 1881 is actually Louisa Carter, and that Harriet took her daughter with her when she set up with Percival. She would have been recorded on the census as Acres as they were passing themselves off as a married family.

Before 1874 there was not as much emphasis on registering births - quite a few of my family are unrecorded. This may be why you can't find a record for Louisa b1870.

This 1891 census is probably just a coincidence but thought it might be handy, just in case:

CARTER, Mary Head Widow F 75 1816 Needle Woman Surrey
CARTER, Harriet E Daughter Widow F 39 1852 Needle Woman London
CARTER, Ada May Granddaughter Single F 19 1872 Scholar London << Age on original is actually 9


Registration District: London City Sub District: St Sepulchre Enumeration District: 1 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Sepulchre

Civil Parish: St Sepulchre Municipal Borough: London Address: 12, Blomfield House, Alterbury Court, St Sepulchre, London County: London

Carter was Harriet's married name with Robert and she was a tailoress in 1871 census. Ages are a couple of years out, but that isn't unusual for those days.

This could possibly be Louisa's birth registration:

Births Sep 1870
Carter Louisa Marylebone 1a 499

Works for a July birth.

Hello Marie
Very many thanks for this additional information. The Harriet on the 1891 census looks promising, particularly as an Ada is with her and that she is a needle woman. Also thanks for finding the birth of Louisa Carter.
It does appear though that the search for the other Leicester children and P G Acres (senior) death has to go on.
I cannot say how grateful I am for your interest and help in this matter.
Regards: David

This might be a bit tenuous - 1891:

JEFFERSON, John Head Married M 51 1840 Iron Works Moulder Whitby Yorkshire
JEFFERSON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 50 1841 Morpeth Northumberland
JEFFERSON, Margaret Daughter Single F 21 1870 Middlesbrough Yorkshire
JEFFERSON, John T Son M 18 1873 General Labourer Middlesbrough Yorkshire
JEFFERSON, William H Son M 11 1880 Scholar Middlesbrough Yorkshire
>>CARTER, Ernest Lodger M 15 1876 General Labourer Birmingham
Warwickshire
STEELE, George Lodger M 2 1889 Middlesbrough Yorkshire
GUGG, Charles E Lodger M 10 1881 Scholar Middlesbrough Yorkshire

Registration District: Middlesbrough Sub District: Middlesbrough
Enumeration District: 26 Ecclesiastical Parish: St John

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough Municipal Borough: Middlesbrough
Address: 13, Mount Street, Middlesbrough County: Yorkshire (North Riding)

1901

CARTER, Mary Head Widow F 78 1823
Surrey VIEW
CARTER, Harriett Daughter Widow F 49 1852 Needlework
Surrey VIEW
CARTER, Ada Grand Daughter Single F 19 1882 Needlework
London VIEW

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Registration District:
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Civil Parish:
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Address:
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London


Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
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BUTTON Thomas Henry Strand 1b 1093
CARTER Ada May Strand 1b 1093


1911

BUTTON, Thomas Henry Head Married M 32 1879 Waiter Club St Giles Bloomsbury VIEW
BUTTON, Ada May Wife Married
1 years F 29 1882 None St Sepulshire Holborn VIEW
BUTTON, May Katherine Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 St Sepulshire Holborn VIEW
CARTER, Harriet Eliza Mother In Law Widow F 59 1852 Needle Worker St Giles Bloomsbury VIEW

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