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Vivien
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14 Nov 2011 13:30 |
Trying to trace my grandfather's younger sister. She was in a home for orphaned girls who had lost both parents in 1901 census. Found a marriage of a Violet M. Gadd to Howard R.Smales but not sure if this is her. Not been able to find either Violet or Howard in the 1911 census.
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Flick
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14 Nov 2011 13:33 |
To check if it's the right person, you need the marriage cert
It will include her father's details
You haven't said when the marriage was registered..................
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MaureeninNY
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14 Nov 2011 13:40 |
I think this is the one who married Howard Smales. They ended up in Australia. Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Violet Marjorie Smales Name: Violet Marjorie Smales Death Place: Dandenong, Victoria Age: 81 Father's Name: William J Gadd Mother's Name: Catheri Edith Registration Year: 1981 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 19211 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Violet Marjorie Gadd Name: Violet Marjorie Gadd Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1900 Registration district: Romford Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 549
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Flick
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14 Nov 2011 13:41 |
Great Britain, Royal Aero Club Aviators’ Certificates, 1910-1950 about Howard Richard Smales Name: Howard Richard Smales Birth Date: 11 Apr 1897 Birth Location: Brisbane, Australia If you'd like the photos etc.........send me your e-mail by PM
The cert is dated 12th March 1919
EDIT
Probably not relevant to your search.........................
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Flick
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14 Nov 2011 13:45 |
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Name: Violet Gadd Birth Date: abt 1890 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1950 Age at Death: 60 Registration district: Surrey South Eastern Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 5g Page: 829
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Maddie
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14 Nov 2011 13:49 |
leaving passenger transcript details Name: Mrs Violet M SMALES Date of departure: 20 October 1953 Port of departure: Liverpool Passenger destination port: Singapore Passenger destination: Singapore Date of Birth: 1898 (calculated from age) Age: 55 Marital status: Married Sex: Female Occupation: Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 4 Printer friendly version Click here to view image The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Howard R SMALES Page 2 of 4 View transcript Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: ANTILOCHUS 182486 W Owen The Blue Funnel Line Japan 4479.27 24 Report a transcript fault
passenger transcript details Name: Howard R SMALES Date of departure: 20 October 1953 Port of departure: Liverpool Passenger destination port: Singapore Passenger destination: Singapore Date of Birth: 1897 (calculated from age) Age: 56 Marital status: Married Sex: Male Occupation: Shipping Manager Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 4 Printer friendly version Click here to view image The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Mrs Violet M SMALES Page 2 of 4 View transcript Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: ANTILOCHUS 182486 W Owen The Blue Funnel Line Japan 4479.27 24 Report a transcript fault Transcription © brights
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Kucinta
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14 Nov 2011 13:57 |
census 1901 for info:
Person: GADD, Violet M
Address: Home For Female Orphans, Grove Road St Johns Wood N W, St Marylebone
GADD, Violet M F 11 1890 St Pancras London
Births Dec 1890 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gadd Violet Maud St. Saviour 1d 132
The death Flick posted looks promising.
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Flick
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14 Nov 2011 14:08 |
Are you 100% sure that the 1901 census is your relation?
The birth year and birthplace don't really fit with the child's birth registration...........which I realise may not be significant
Where are the others in 1901?
1891 for info ONLY
Name: Violet M Gadd Age: 5/12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Gadd Mother's Name: Alice Gadd Gender: Female Where born: Walworth, London, England Civil parish: Newington St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 358 Folio: 18 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Henry Gadd 40 Alice Gadd 38 Alice R O Gadd 10 Harry W Gadd 8 Reuben Gadd 6 Violet M Gadd 5/12
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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14 Nov 2011 14:21 |
1911 GADD, Reuben Head Married M 26 1885 Compositor Ireland Curragh Camp VIEW GADD, Edith Hetty Wife Married 3 years F 25 1886 Kent Chatham VIEW GADD, Rina Edith Daughter F 2 1909 London Islington VIEW GADD, Stella Daughter F 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 London Islington VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 800 Reference: RG14PN800 RG78PN28 RD10 SD2 ED1 SN119 Registration District: Islington Sub District: Upper Holloway Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Islington Address: 51 Gladsmuir Road Upper Holloway N County: London This looks like his birth Name: GADD, Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966 Regiment: Royal Engineers Place: Curragh Country: Ireland Year: 1884 Volume: 663 Page: 57 Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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14 Nov 2011 14:23 |
1911 GADD, Harry William Head Married 3 years M 28 1883 Bar Cellarman Chatham Kent VIEW GADD, Lily Mary Harriett Wife Married F 23 1888 Bermondsey VIEW GADD, Lily Elizabeth Alice Daughter F 2 1909 Bermondsey VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 1895 Reference: RG14PN1895 RG78PN67 RD24 SD2 ED27 SN167 Registration District: St Olave (Bermondsey) Sub District: Bermondsey Enumeration District: 27 Parish: Bermondsey Address: 3 Drappers Road S E County: London
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Vivien
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14 Nov 2011 14:53 |
Thank you all for your threads. Seem to have hit a brick wall with Violet Maud as she is not the Violet M.Gadd who married Howard R. Smales and emigrated to Australia - wrong middle name and parents. Is there any way of tracing what happened orphan children? Would there be any records held by the home?
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Flick
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14 Nov 2011 16:45 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1285648
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Vivien
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8 Sep 2012 22:16 |
Violet Maud Gadd still elusive after 1901 Census when she was at the School for Female Orphans in Grove Road, St.Johns Wood NW, Marylebone. No sign in the 1911 Census and unable to find a marriage or death between 1901 and 1911. Is there any way of tracing the school records?
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SylviaInCanada
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9 Sep 2012 00:42 |
Have you considered the fact that she might be a Home Child ..... sent to Canada or Australia?
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