Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

New posts
No new posts
Thread closed
Stickied, new posts
Stickied, no new posts

Page 1 + 1 of 3

Profile	Posted by	Options	Post Date
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Jan 2016 11:48
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	Looking at the date of this marriage and the 1851 census posted, it would appear that either Lydia brought an illegitimate child to the family or she had been previously married ?? Father on census surname Goll James Bear mentioned in the record of James Bear and Lydia Davy Name James Bear Spouse's Name Lydia Davy Event Date 30 Jan 1834 Event Place Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England CITING THIS RECORD "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFL5-DM2 : accessed 23 January 2016), James Bear and Lydia Davy, 30 Jan 1834; citing Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England, reference 27 p16; FHL microfilm 1,596,068. ------------------------------------ James Bear mentioned in the record of James Bear and Lydia Davy Name James Bear Spouse's Name Lydia Davy Event Date 30 Jan 1834 Event Place Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England CITING THIS RECORD "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNW3-DP2 : accessed 23 January 2016), James Bear and Lydia Davy, 30 Jan 1834; citing Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk, England, reference Item 9 Pg; FHL microfilm 1,702,653.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 11:48
	Jane Eizabeth Dickerson in the 1861 England Census Name:Jane Eizabeth Dickerson Age: 1 Estimated birth year:1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: James Dickerson Mother's name:Sarah Dickerson Gender: Female Where born:Weasenham St Peters, Norfolk, England Civil Parish:Weasenham St Peter County/Island:Norfolk Country:England Household Members: James Dickerson 26 Sarah Dickerson 23 Jane Eizabeth Dickerson 1 Richard Belue 25 Jane Elizth. Dickerson in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Jane Elizth. Dickerson Gender: Female Baptism Date: 8 Apr 1860 Baptism Place: Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England Father: James Dickerson Mother: Sarah
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Jan 2016 11:57
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	Yes, looks as though Lydia was previously married (but not for long) Name John Davy Spouse's Name Lydia Goll Event Date 10 Nov 1831 Event Place Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England CITING THIS RECORD "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFL5-DMW : accessed 23 January 2016), John Davy and Lydia Goll, 10 Nov 1831; citing Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England, reference 27 p14; FHL microfilm 1,596,068. ---------------------------------------------------------- Looks like he was a bit older than Lydia! FMP has copy of OPR. States John was a married man John Davy England, Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts Name John Davy Event Type Burial Event Date 24 Mar 1832 Event Place Norfolk, England Gender Male Age 53 Birth Year (Estimated) 1779
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Jan 2016 12:02
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	Lydia Goll England Births and Christenings Name Lydia Goll Gender Female Christening Date 05 Apr 1812 Christening Place WEASENHAM ALL SAINTS,NORFOLK,ENGLAND Birth Date 06 Mar 1812 Father's Name Edmund Goll Mother's Name Frances
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Jan 2016 12:05
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	?? Edm. Goll mentioned in the record of Edm. Goll and Frances Ebdell Name Edm. Goll Spouse's Name Frances Ebdell Event Date 23 Jan 1798 Event Place South Creake,Norfolk,England Edmund is shown as born Syderstone on the 1851 census - it's just about next door to South Creake Got to go - out with the dog before the rain arrives.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 12:33
	1841 England Census Name Lydia Bear Age 25 Estimated Birth Year abt 1816 Gender Female Where born Norfolk, England Civil parish All Saints Weasenham Hundred Launditch County/Island Norfolk Country England Registration district Mitford Sub-registration district Litcham Household Members James Bear 30 (Ag Lab) Lydia Bear 25 Ann Bear 5 Richard Bear 4 Sarah Bear 3 Edmund Bear 12 Weeks
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 12:42
	1841 England Census Name Edmund Goll Age 60 Estimated Birth Year abt 1781 Gender Male Where born Norfolk, England Civil parish All Saints Weasenham Hundred Launditch County/IslandNorfolk CountryEngland Registration district Mitford Sub-registration district Litcham Edmund Goll 60 (Ag Lab) Sarah Goll 20 Edmund Goll in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 Name: Edmund Goll Gender: Male Burial Date: 15 Jun 1859 Burial Place: Weasenham-All Saints, Norfolk, England England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 Name Frances Goll Gender Female Death Date 1839 Burial Date 10 Nov 1839 Burial Place Weasenham-All Saints, Norfolk, England
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 13:17
	Frances is with her half sister Jane Elizabeth Dickerson on the 1881 census Jane Elizth . Dickerson in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Jane Elizth . Dickerson Gender: Female Baptism Date: 8 Apr 1860 Baptism Place: Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England Father:James Dickerson Mother: Sarah Jane married in 1879....... Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%) Dickerson Jane Elizabeth Nottingham 7b 418 MEWSE Robert Nottingham 7b 418 Frances appears as Frances Nicholson........Jane appears as Elizabeth Meuse Frances Nicholas in the 1881 England Census Name: Frances Nicholas Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relationship to Head: Sister in Law Gender: Female Where born: Weasenham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Radford County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 6 Dixon St Registration district: Nottingham Sub registration district: Radford Household Members: Robert Meuse 22 (Machine Fitter) Barnack, Northamptonshire, Elizabeth Meuse 21 Sarah A. Meuse 1 George H. Meuse Frances Nicholas 11 Daughter Sarah's birth was registered in the surname of Meuse....... Births Dec 1879 (>99%) Meuse Sarah Ann Basford 7b 119 Robert Mewse in the 1891 England Census Name: Robert Mewse >>>>>>>Meuse on the image Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation:Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Mewse >>Jane obviously preferred the name Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Barnack, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Pudsey Ecclesiastical parish: Pudsey St Pauls Town:Pudsey County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Registration district:Bradford Household Members: Robert Mewse 32 (Engine Fitter at Foundry) Elizabeth Mewse 30 George H Mewse 10 Frank Mewse 7 Robert Mewse 4 Frances Mewse 6/12 Jacob Lindon 31 (Boarder) Daughter Sarah Ann is with her Grandparents in 1891...... Sarah A Mewse in the 1891 England Census Name: Sarah A Mewse Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Felley Eashood, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Annesley Ecclesiastical parish: Annesley Town: Annesley County/Island:Nottinghamshire Country:England Household Members: George Nichols 52 Sarah Nichols 52 Sarah A Mewse 11 Joseph Alladine 20 (Boarder) George Nichols in the 1881 England Census Name: George Nichols Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Sarah Nichols Gender: Male Where born: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Civil Parish:Annesley County/Island:Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: Felley Marital Status: Married Occupation:Farm Labourer Registration district: Basford Household Members: George Nichols 42 Sarah Nichols 42 Charles Deaney 21 (Boarder) Jane Elizabeth Mewse in the 1911 England Census Name: Jane Elizabeth Mewse Age in 1911: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Weasenham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 58 Bateman Street Nottm Marital Status: Widowed Registration district: Nottingham Household Members: Jane Elizabeth Mewse 51 Robert Mewse 24 Frances Mewse 20 Ethel Mewse 17 Edith Nicolls 2 (Niece) born Pudsey;>>>>I wonder who Edith belongs to?? There were no Nicholl's son's and the only Nicholl's female not married at the time of the 1911 census was Mabel! So perhaps Edith is the daughter of Mabel??
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 13:45
	I have yet to figure out what happened to Frances after the 1891 census! :-\|
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 14:03
	BINGO!!!! :-D Frances Nichols in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Frances Nichols Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 26 Birth Date: 1870 Marriage Date: 6 Apr 1896 Marriage Place: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England Father: George Nichols Spouse: William John Dyer Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%) Nichols Frances Shardlow 7b 856 Dyer William John Shardlow 7b 856 Frances Dyer in the 1901 England Census Name: Frances Dyer Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Weasenham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Long Eaton Ecclesiastical parish: Long Eaton St Lawrence Town: Long Eaton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Shardlow Sub-registration district:Stapleford Household Members: Frances Dyer 31 (Widow) Boarders..... Henry Haney 39 (Married) Railway engine Driver) Walter Haney 12 Vene Haney 8 Mabel Haney 5 Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%) Dyer William John 28 Shardlow 7b 341
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 14:14
	William and Frances had a son who died in infancy..... William John Dyer in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: William John Dyer Gender: Male Baptism Date: 24 Jan 1897 Baptism Place: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England Father: William John Dyer Mother: Frances Dyer William John Dyer in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: William John Dyer Registration Year: 1896 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district Shardlow Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 506 William John Dyer in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: William John Dyer Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Registration Year: 1897 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Shardlow Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 328 How very sad to lose both your husband and child within a year of marriage. :-( Off to see if I can find Frances on the 1911 census>>>>>>>>>>>.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 14:45
	Frances's surname has been mis-transcribed as "Degar" on the 1911 census. She is with the boarder Henry John "Henley?" who was with her in the 1901 census. Frances Deger in the 1911 England Census Name: Frances Deger >>>>>Dyer on the image Age in 1911: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation to Head: Housekeeper Gender: Female Birth Place: Weasenham, Nerfock Civil Parish: Long Eaton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 41 Hemlock Avenue Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Housekeeper Registration district: Shardlow Household Members: Henry John Henley 49 (Railway Engine Driver) Frances Deger 41 Vena Blanche Henley 18 Mabel Florence Henley 15 Minnie Maud Henley 14 Reginald Frank Henley 6 The children's births were registered in the name of "Hurley"
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 14:49
	Deaths Mar 1929 (>99%) Dyer Frances 59 Shardlow 7b 861 Frances Dyer in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Frances Dyer Probate Date: 21 Mar 1929 Registry: Nottingham, England Death Date: 24 Feb 1929 Death Place: Derbyshire, England Of 41 Hemlock Avenue, Long Eaton, Derbyshire. To Henry John Hurley retired engine driver. Effects: £120 15s 1d Amen.......Prickles.;o))
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 1,067 Send Message	ChristinaS	Report	23 Jan 2016 15:26
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 1,067 Send Message	Hi Lisa Did the DNA test you used follow back on the female side only, or are you assuming that Hilda's father was of Afro Caribbean origin? Nottingham archives MAY have something of use. Just maybe, Mabel took out a court order against him, for child support. Or maybe Hilda was taken in as a ward before being placed with the Parkins.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Jan 2016 15:34
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	George and Sarah Nichols have moved to Nottinghamshire by 1881 when daughter Frances is with the Meuse's 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Felley, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Nichols Head Married Male 42 1839 Farm Labourer Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Sarah Nichols Wife Married Female 42 1839 - Norfolk, England Charles Deaney Boarder Single Male 21 1860 Coal Miner Buckinghamshire, England and in 1891 have a Meuse grandchild with them 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Derby Road, Felley, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Nichols Head Married Male 52 1839 Agricultural Labourer Norfolk, England Sarah Nichols Wife Married Female 52 1839 - Norfolk, England Transcription Sarah A Mewse Granddaughter - Female 11 1880 - Nottinghamshire, England Joseph Alladine Boarder Single Male 20 1871 Groom Domestic Selston, Nottinghamshire,
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	23 Jan 2016 17:43
	Baptism County Norfolk Place Weasenham Church name All Saints Register type Unspecified Register entry number 427 Baptism date 19 Sep 1869 Person forename Frances Father forename George Father surname NICHOLLS Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Sarah http://www.freereg.org.uk/ (from above, if anything else relating) Chris :)
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 18:07
	Ah!.........Here is Mabel Nicholls in the 1911 census......... Mabel Nickols in the 1911 England Census Name: Mabel Nickols Age in 1911: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Carlton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 139 Carlton Hill Carlton Marital Status: Single Occupation: Pattern Girl Registration district: Basford Household Members: Fredk Wm Tipping 29 Florence Tipping 29 Alfred Charles Tipping 6 Harry Tipping 4 Frederick Tipping 2 Mabel Nickols 20 (Married 6 years.........3 children born and living) Florence is the daughter of William and Lydia Millington. (Lydia being the half sister to Frances) Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%) Millington Florence Nottingham 7b 588 Tipping Frederick William Nottingham 7b 588 Nice to know they all stayed together as a family. Lets hope that Lisa gets back to us.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	greyghost	Report	23 Jan 2016 19:11
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,497 Send Message	Probably living near to some of my gang who lived at various addresses on Carlton Hill.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	23 Jan 2016 19:57
	I am out of here for tonight. My eyes have turned inside out! :-D
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	24 Jan 2016 08:25
	I have been looking at possible marriages for Mabel. I got quite excited over this one........ Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%) NICHOLLS Mabel Basford 7b 329 Swann Thomas Basford 7b 329 The problem is, there is a death for a Mabel Swann in 1918..... Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%) Swann Mabel 33 Basford 7b 364 Age 33.........so that would mean she was born 1885......whereas Mabel was apparently born in 1891. Still a possibility though. There was son born to the above marriage...... Births Mar 1912 (>99%) Swann John T Nichols Basford 7b 415
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

All Categories

Popular Searches

Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

Boards

Quick Search

Single word search

Tools

Icons

Help plz Finding my roots Mums side.