Military Chat

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

ENSA World war 2

ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

Barry

Barry Report 28 Jan 2024 20:44

Hi i would like to ask your expertise. I have a ancestor George Harold p Creasey who i think was in the Royal Armoured Corps but also ENSA would this be possible? also as a member of ENSA would he be expected to fight.
George was from East Grinstead does this suggest which RMC he was in.

thanks for any help given
Barry

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Jan 2024 23:07

Is this the man you're asking about - FMP shows I've looked at this record before, do you have another thread about the family?

Birth registered as Harold George P

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CREASEY, HAROLD GEORGE PAWSEY -
GRO Reference: 1911 S Quarter in EAST GRINSTEAD Volume 02B Page 239


1921 Census Of England & Wales
11, Council Terrace, East Grinstead, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
James Creasey Head Male 1864 57 East Grinstead, Sussex, England General Labourer W W Woollam Surveyor
Esther Creasey Wife Female 1863 57 Horley, Surrey, England Home Duties -
Ernest H Creasey Son Male 1896 24 Ashurst Wood, Sussex, England Carman Martin Smith & Foster Builders
Florence M Creasey Daughter Female 1899 21 Ashurst Wood, Sussex, England General Domestic Servant Dr Wallis
Violet L Creasey Daughter Female 1901 19 Ashurst Wood, Sussex, England General Domestic Servant Dr Wallis
Harold G P Creasey Grandson Male 1911 10 East Grinstead, Sussex, England - -
Cela J Creasey Granddaughter Female 1920 - East Grinstead, Sussex, England - -

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Jan 2024 23:09

Previous threads about the Creasey family -

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1402285

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1402129

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1401864

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1401411

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1401237

and others

--------------------
Links given to RAC sites and also to how to obtain Service records on some of these threads - have you applied for his service records !!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2024 22:02

Get the man’s records and you will have factual info

Also, you could google ENSA and read up on it.

Barry

Barry Report 31 Jan 2024 20:51

have google it not that much info

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2024 21:28

If you've Googled it thoroughly, you know as much about it as we do!
We are only GR members like you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainments_National_Service_Association

https://www.hoxnehistory.org.uk/WW2%20Entertaining%20the%20armed%20forces.pdf

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F95900


ENSA members were not expected to fight.

Your best bet is his service record, as already advised.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Feb 2024 09:42

Apply for his records. NO OTHER WAY to find out.
No-one on here can conjure up info

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2024 12:40

But don't expect a lot of detail.

When I sent for my father 's WW2 record, I was disappointed to find it only listed the countries he'd served in - not specific places in those countries, which is what I'd hoped for.
There's a family story that he was at Tobruk, but the record only says he was in Libya, so no way of knowing if the story is true or not.

From what's online about ENSA, if George was in the Royal Armoured Corps, it sounds as if he might have been transferred to Stars in Battledress, rather than being in ENSA.
ENSA members were civilians, and weren't allowed to go to areas where fighting was happening.
Therefore, Stars in Battledress was formed from serving members of the army, who could go to more dangerous places.