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Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 21 Sep 2023 17:45

My grandfather fought in WW1 together with his three brothers. Between them they fought in most spheres of the war including The Somme, Ypres and Gallipoli. All of them survived and lived full lives after the war, although nobody knows the scars they carried. Their names were Frederick, Harold, Percy and Sidney Gaskin. They served with Kings regiment Liverpool and Cheshire regiment. If anybody has any information that might help my tree I should be very grateful.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2023 17:50

If you can tell us what information you already have, we will then know what further information you are hoping for.
There's no point in our telling you things you already know!

It sounds as if you have their military records. Is that the case?

Are you wanting military information, or other records of their lives?

When and where were they born?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2023 17:56

If I've figured it out correctly, this is Frederick's marriage:

Frederick C Gaskin
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name Frederick C Gaskin
Spouse Surname Pyke
Registration Year 1915 [1915]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration district Wirral
Inferred County Cheshire
Volume 8a
Page 1079
Records on Page (Name)
Frederick C Gaskin
Marion Pyke

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2023 17:59

Frederick C Gaskin
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Frederick C Gaskin
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 26 Dec 1894
Residence Date 1939
Address 14
Residence Place Bebington, Cheshire, England
Occupation Unhaving Machine Operator Januery Worker
Line Number 33
Schedule Number 241
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Legh
Borough Bebington
Registration district 451/1
Inferred Spouse
Marion Gaskin
Household Members (Name) Gender
Frederick C Gaskin Male
Marion Gaskin Female
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.


therefore his birth:

GASKIN, FREDERICK CHARLES mmn MURRAY
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 579

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2023 18:01

GASKIN, PERCY STANLEY mmn MURRAY
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 562

GASKIN, SIDNEY mmn MURRAY
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 615

GASKIN, HAROLD mmn MURRAY
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 487

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2023 18:05

Percy Stanley Gaskin
in the UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Percy Stanley Gaskin
Gender: Male
Enlistment Age: 22
Birth Place: Everton, Lancaster, England
Marriage Date: 26 May 1912
Marriage Place: St Nicholas Ch Liverpool
Military Date: 1914
Relationship to Soldier: Self (Head)
Regimental Number: ??127
Regiment Name: Cheshire Regiment
Number of Images: 21
Form Title: Attestation
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Percy Stanley Gaskin Self (Head)
Ethel Gaskin Spouse
Nellie Gaskin Gaskin

There are many pages of information in his record.
If you don't already have an Ancestry subscription, you should sign up for a free trial, and look at the record for yourself.

But perhaps you already have all that.

We don't know what information you're looking for.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Sep 2023 15:22

In case the OP ever returns.and not having a clue what is being asked for.............

1921 Census Of England & Wales
1, Burn's Place, New Ferry, Lower Bebington, Cheshire, England

Frederick Charles Gaskin Head Male 1895 26 West Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Casual Labourer Great Western Railway Out Of Work
Marion Gaskin Wife Female 1895 26 Lower Bebington, Cheshire, England Home Duties -
Ann Mary Margaret Pyke Wife's mother Female 1855 65 Everton, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Frederick Stanley Gaskin Son Male 1920 1 Lower Bebington, Cheshire, England - -


1921 Census Of England & Wales
21, Albany Road, Stoneycroft, West Derby, Lancashire, England
William Degaunga Head Male 1877 44 Douglas, Isle of Man, Isle of Man General Labourer General Labour Engineer Dep Corporation
Jane Degaunga Wife Female 1872 49 Whitley, Yorkshire, England Home Duties -
Bertie Degaunga Step-son Male 1899 22 Wales - General Labour Orderly
William Degaunga Son Male 1906 14 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - -
Ernest Degaunga Son Male 1908 12 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England - -
Harold Gaskin Boarder's head Male 1896 24 Cheshire, England Paint & Glass Salesman Tudwick Wilkinson & Co, Glass Pit & Paint Merchant
Emily Gaskin Wife Female 1899 22 - Home Duties -

1921 Census Of England & Wales
8, Burn's Place, New Ferry, Lower Bebington, Cheshire, England
Percy Stanley Gaskin Head Male 1893 28 West Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Casual Labourer Lever Brothers Limited
Ethel Gaskin Wife Female 1892 29 Lower Bebington, Cheshire, England Home Duties -
Ellen Gaskin Daughter Female 1912 9 Lower Bebington, Cheshire, England - -


1921 Census Of England & Wales
268, Whitefield Road, Everton, West Derby, Lancashire, England
Samuel Keenan Head Male 1859 61 Ireland General Labourer Traffic Department Mersey Dock & Harbour Board
Catherine Edith Keenan Wife Female 1871 50 London, Middlesex, England House Duties -
Samuel William Keenan Son Male 1904 17 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Machine Driver Enamelled Wires Ltd, Wire Makers
Gladys Ruth Keenan Daughter Female 1908 12 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - -
Christopher John Keenan Son Male 1912 9 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - -
Joseph Cimelli Son-in-law Male 1899 22 Liverpool, Lancashire, England General Labourer G L Desoer Builders
Esther Catherine Cimelli Daughter Female 1895 25 Liverpool, Lancashire, England House Duties -
Joseph Eli Cimelli Grandson Male 1921 0 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - -
Sidney Gaskin Boarder Male 1902 19 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wire Enameller Unemployed Prescot Wire Works

I would doubt that someone born as late as 1902 actually served in WW1 :-S :-S :-S

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2023 17:14

The parents' marriage:

Marriages Jun 1891 (>99%)
Gaskin Percy W. Derby 8b 544
MURRAY Mary Ellen W. Derby 8b 544


Harold Gaskin
in the Cheshire, England, Parish Registers, 1538-1909
Name Harold Gaskin
Gender Male
Record Type Christening (Baptism)
Baptism Date 10 Sep 1896
Baptism Place Birkenhead St Matthew, Cheshire, England
Residence Place St. Matthew, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Father Percy Gaskin
Mother Nelly Gaskin


Frederick Charles Gaskin
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name Frederick Charles Gaskin
Gender Male
Birth Date 26 Dec 1894
Baptism Date 20 Feb 1895
Baptism Place St. Ambrose, Everton, Lancashire, England
Father Percy Gaskin
Mother Mary Ellen
FHL Film Number 1656012
Reference ID item 7 p 14


Percy Gaskin
in the 1901 England Census
Name Percy Gaskin
Age 30
Estimated Birth Year abt 1871
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Spouse Mary E Gaskin
Birth Place Lancashire, England
Civil parish Everton
Search Photos
View blank form
Ecclesiastical parish Emmanuel
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district West Derby
Sub-registration district South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel 40
Neighbors
Piece 3485
Folio 59
Page number 1
Household schedule number 4
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Percy Gaskin 30 Head
Mary E Gaskin 28 Wife
Percy S Gaskin 8 Son
Frederick L Gaskin 6 Son
Harold Gaskin 4 Son
Mary S Murray 54 Visitor


Frederick Charles Gaskin
in the 1911 England Census
Name Frederick Charles Gaskin
Age in 1911 16
Estimated Birth Year abt 1895
Relation to Head Son
Gender Male
Birth Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Everton
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 29 Netherfield Rd South Liverpool
Marital Status Single
Occupation Apprentice Plumber
Registration District Number 455
Sub-registration district South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel 12
Piece 22525
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Percia Gaskin 40 Head [Percy on image ]
Maria Gaskin 37 Wife
Frederick Charles Gaskin 16 Son
Hannah Gaskin 15 Son [Harold on image - dreadful handwriting]
Sidney Gaskin 9 Son
Sydney Lytton 9 Stepson (Step Son)


Geoffrey -

Huge numbers of WW1 records have not survived.
I don't see anything definite for Harold, Sidney or Frederick.
Anyway, as ErikaH says, Sidney was too young, unless he maybe joined up just at the end of the war.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2023 17:21

IF Sidney was in WW1, there's this possibility - but without full records, or even an age stated, there's no way to prove if this is the right person:


Sydney Gaskin
in the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
View original image on Fold3.com (may require an additional subscription).
Name Sydney Gaskin
Record Type Military
Service Number 28300, 50559, M/4/25349
Corps, Regiment or Unit L N Lancs, S. Lancs, T. R.
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description Other Ranks Survived
Reference Number 3/Mg/9301
Next of Kin (Name)
Sydney Gaskin

Enlisted 16/2/1917 - so might just about have been old enough.
That record produced in Preston.



Sidney Gaskin
in the UK, British Army World War I Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name Sidney Gaskin
Military Date 1914-1920
Military Place England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, United Kingdom
Regiment or Corps Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire) Regiment, Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Regimental Number 50559, 28300


Sidney Gaskin
in the UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
Name Sidney Gaskin
Military Year 1914-1920
Rank Private
Company WO 329
Regiment or Corps Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Regiment Number 28300
Medal Awarded British War Medal and Victory Medal


Sydney Gaskin
in the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
View original image on Fold3.com (may require an additional subscription).
Name Sydney Gaskin
Record Type Military
Service Number 28300, 50559, M/4/25349
Corps, Regiment or Unit L N Lancs, S. Lancs, T. R.
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description Other Ranks Survived
Reference Number 3/Mg/9301
Next of Kin (Name)
Sydney Gaskin