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Help please. Richard Whyte

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Karen

Karen Report 7 Jan 2021 17:41

Richard Whyte, birth 20/05/1890 death 19/03/986 Married 1921 Lilian Mary Sibyl Smith. Lived in Andover Hampshire.
1917 to 1945. Seaforth Highlanders, Air Commodore in RAF. OBE 1945.

Richard’s father also called Richard Whyte. No information for Richard Whyte Senior other than he was given a writing box with the following inscription:-

RICHARD WHYTE, given by the teachers and scholars of Craigs School Stirling on his leaving for Edinburgh January 25th 1878

Any information greatly appreciated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jan 2021 19:18

Too recent for the military records to be online. You will have to buy his record at a cost of £30.00. It will take several months to arrive

For the father.......have you looked for him on censuses?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jan 2021 19:24

1891 census shows the family in Larbert, Stirlingshire
The Hollies, Stirling Road, Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Richard Whyte Head Married Male 31 1860 Schoolmaster (Elementary) Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Jessie Whyte Wife Married Female 30 1861 - Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
William Whyte Son - Male 3 1888 - Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Richard Whyte Son - Male 0 1891 - Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Mary Ballantyne Servant Unmarried Female 21 1870 General Serv Domestic Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland

By 1901, two further children, Arthur and Jeanie M

Use Scotland’s People website to look for the marriage of Richard snr and Jessie

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Jan 2021 22:20

Via google -

King's Birthday Honours - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_Birthday_Honours
plus -
Supplement to the London Gazette 14 June 1945 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37119/supplement/2947/data.pdf

Air Commodore Richard Whyte was actually awarded a CBE -

"To be Commanders of the Military Division of the Military Division of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire" ..........

Air force Lists -
He'll also be listed here if you want to work through all the pages -
https://digital.nls.uk/dcn23/9600/96001117.23.pdf
https://digital.nls.uk/dcn23/9593/95938685.23.pdf

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Jan 2021 22:41

Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards

First name(s) Richard
Last name Whyte
Year 1914-20
Service number 3603
Rank Private,Second Lieutenant
Second rank Second Lieutenant
Regiment London Regiment, Seaforth Highlanders
Second corps Seaforth Highlanders
Service record Soldier Number: 3603, Rank: Private, Corps: London Regiment
Second service record Rank: Second Lieutenant, Corps: Seaforth Highlanders
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D5854382
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/21
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Medal Rolls and Honours
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Initially a Private with the 28th London Regiment and then Seaforth Highlanders as a 2nd Lieutenant and then to the Royal Flying Corps.

Commissioned 4.12.1915

RFC merged with the Royal Naval Air Service on 1.4.1918 to form the RAF

Awarded British and Victory Medals, also 1915 Star. Theatre of War first served in was France and he first entered there on 11.8.1915
Note on medal card says BW +V medals to be issued by the Air Ministry

Address on the Medal Card - Norwood, Larbert, Stirlingshire (probably related to a 1920 date on the card)

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Jan 2021 22:50

VALUATION ROLLS - ??


WHYTE
RICHARD
Occupier
HOUSE AND GARDEN WILLOWBANK STENHOUSEMUIR
LARBERT
1884
VR011900029-
Buy credits

WHYTE
RICHARD
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE AND GARDEN WILLOWBANK STENHOUSEMUIR
LARBERT
1885
VR011900029-

WHYTE
RICHARD
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE AND GARDEN BURNHEAD STENHOUSEMUIR
LARBERT
1895
VR011900039-

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Jan 2021 22:56

1911 census - you'll need credits on Scotland's People to look at the full result

Surname Forename Year Gender Age at Census Ref RD Name County/ City
WHYTE RICHARD 1911 M 20 485/A 3/ 1 Larbert Stirling

Also in same household
Janie Muriel age 16
Elizabeth C 9
William B 23


There is also these Whyte families in Larbert (incase related)
485/A5/34
Margaret --3
Robert - 31
Margaret - 28
Agnes - 2
Lilies - 6

485 A5/1
Christina W - 18
Donald C B - 28
william - 16
robert - 53
Ann - 54
Andrew - 20
Elizabeth - 17

485/A5/30
Mary - 59
John - 67

and lastly 485/A7/24
Martha - 0
Charles - 28
Martha - 21

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Jan 2021 22:58

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hollies, Main Street, Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Whyte Head Married Male 41 1860 School Master Elementary Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Jessie Whyte Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
William Whyte Son - Male 13 1888 Scholar Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Richard Whyte Son - Male 10 1891 Scholar Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Arthur Whyte Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Jeanie M Whyte Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Mary Drummond Servant Single Female 19 1882 General Servant (Domestic Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 7 Jan 2021 23:18

Deaths ??

Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name Image View

WHYTE RICHARD 49 1908 485/A 179 Larbert

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jan 2021 11:52

Parents' marriage???

WHYTE
RICHARD
BARR
JESSIE A
1884
638/1 34
Larkhall


Go to SP and buy credits to look at the image to verify and to find names of both sets of parents

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jan 2021 11:55

Marriage of Richard senior:

WHYTE, RICHARD
BARR, JESSIE A
1884
638/1 34
Larkhall

6 credits on Scotlands People will let you look at (and print if wished) the image of the original marriage cert, which will give you their parents' names.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jan 2021 12:01


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Carron, Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland

Elizabeth Whyte Head Widow Female 64 1817 - Lanarkshire, Scotland
Richard Whyte Son Unmarried Male 21 1860 Teacher Elemantary Carmyle, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Whyte Niece Unmarried Female 9 1872 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Black Servant Unmarried Female 17 1864 Serv General Domestic Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jan 2021 12:02

Suggestion ONLY for 1861 - father's details from marriage cert are essential for verification

Carmyle, Old Monkland, Old Monkland Western District, Lanarkshire, Scotland

John White Head Married Male 43 1818 Coal Miner Lanarkshire, Scotland
Elizabeth White Wife Married Female 44 1817 - Lanarkshire, Scotland
James White Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Coal Miner Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary White Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Cotton Bleacher Lanarkshire, Scotland
William White Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Lanarkshire, Scotland
John White Son - Male 4 1857 - Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Richard White Son - Male 1 1860 - Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Christina Hart Boarder Unmarried Female 27 1834 Cotton Bleacher Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Karen

Karen Report 11 Jan 2021 22:59

Thank you so much for giving up your time to help me along with my research.