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My grt/uncle 'Frederick Gurney' (no middle name) B1889 New Brompton Kent

Enlisted at Canterbury Kent 14 nov 1907 with The Buffs East Kent Reg.

He served in Sth Africa for 1yr...64days ...Discharged at his own request 15-2-1912

What happened to him after that is my question!

Did he Re-Enlist when 1914-1918 War Broke out!

Did he Emigrate to Canada, USA or Australia....???

Any Info most welcome...

His Parent's names were John & Emily Gurney...his mother Died 1907. Lived at Gillingham. Kent.

:-)

Above record on FMP - Service No. 8694 - a Private

Aged 18 years and 10 months when enlisted Nov. 1907 so born c January 1889

Transferred to Veterinary Corps 17.5.1909

Cost him £18 to be Discharged

NOK - Father John and Mother Emily and 5 brothers James, William, John, Thomas and George

all of 41 Arden Street, Gillingham, Kent

Could this be him on the electoral register for 1920:-

First name(s) Frederick
Last name Gurney
Year 1920
Season Spring
Polling district or place Canterbury
Constituency P C of Kent, Canterbury Division
Constituency in full Parliamentary County of Kent, Canterbury Division
County Kent
Country England
Register type Parliamentary County
Archive
The British Library
Archive reference SPR.Mic.P.4/BL.K.7
Record set England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1920-1932

Address given as St. Thoms's Hill, Parish of St. Dunstan's Without.

Kath. x

1911

Name: Frederick Gurney
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gillingham, Kent, England
Search Photos:
County/Island: Military
Country: England
Rank: Private
Military Unit: Army Vety Corps
Registration District Number: 641
ED, institution, or vessel: South Africa
Piece: 34977


Name: Fredk Gurney
Admission Age: 13
Birth Date: abt 1889
Admission Date: 25 Jul 1902
Admission Place: Medway, Kent, England
From Whence Admitted: Gillingham
Record Type: Admission
Parish or Poor Law Union: Medway Union


??
Name: Frederick Gurney
Marriage Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1889
Marriage Date: 28 Dec 1920
Marriage Place: Downend, Christ Church, Gloucestershire, England
Father: John Gurney
Spouse: Ethel Maud Rose Hendy
Father: Gilbert J. Hendy

Freebmd has Ethel's surname as Handy

Name: Ethel Maud Rose Hendy
Age: 0
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1895
Baptism Date: 1 May 1895
Baptism Place: Downend, Christ Church, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Gilbert Hendy
Mother: Emily Hendy


Name: Ethel Maud Rose Gurney
Age: 94
Birth Date: abt 1896
Death Date: 1990
Burial Date: 15 Jan 1990
Burial Place: Downend, Christ Church, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Christ Church, Downend

??? Possible death:

Deaths Dec 1953 (>99%)
GURNEY Frederick 64 Coventry 9c 704


Birth:

GURNEY, FREDERICK mms SNOWLAND
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in MEDWAY Volume 02A Page 604

Parents' marriage:

Marriages Jun 1881 (>99%)
GURNEY John N. Aylesford 2a 754
SNOWLING Emily N. Aylesford 2a 754


Frederick Gurney
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Frederick Gurney
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gillingham, Kent, England
Search Photos:
County/Island: Military
Country: England
Rank: Private
Military Unit: Army Vety Corps
Registration District Number: 641
ED, institution, or vessel: South Africa
Piece: 34977

1939
2 Church View, Mangotsfield U.D., Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Gurney 15 Jun 1889 Male Stone Machinist Married 182 1
Maud R Guerney 15 Feb 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 182 2


DEATH
First name(s) FREDERICK
Last name GURNEY
Gender Male
Birth day 15
Birth month 6
Birth year 1889
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1974
District Bristol
County Gloucestershire
Volume 22
Page 1074

The Frederick who married Ethel Hendy in Gloucester might be this one:

Frederick Gurney
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Frederick Gurney
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 271

He will also be the one who died in Bristol.

Yes, it probably is - unfortunate coincidence in the father's name

Name: Frederick Gurney
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 Jul 1889
Baptism Place: Gloucester, All Saints, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: All Saints Gloucester
Father: John Gurney
Mother: Eliza Gurney

Birth
GURNEY Frederick (MMN) WOOD 1889 Gloucester Gloucester, Kingsholm 22 105

Name: Emily Gurney
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 47
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 398

ErikaH

Many thanks for replying..

forgot to mention my F Gurney's birth/date 9th jan 1889

so will have to discount the Death 1974 B.15 june 1889

will have to discount also gloucestorshire........

Poppycat..

Had already done so, as you will see, but left the info to show anyone else trying to help that it's the wrong person.

What about the Coventry death found and posted by AG?.

Although his service records are on Findmypast, if you send off for them from the MOD if he re-enlisted at a later date you should get ALL of his service history from them. However if he didn't re-enlist then you would just be wasting £30 as Findmypast gives all of his early service up to 1912.

Kath. x

ArgyllGran!

many thanks for replying chasing up my requests...sorry did not reply sooner

i'm in Sth Australia time was getting late..

The Death for my Frederick Gurney is close but i doubt he had moved to Coventry
as from what i know of the family they all lived within Kent
unless perhaps shows his Birthdate on the 39' Reg as being 9th Jan 1889 living
in Coventry....then i'd send of for a B.C.

Thanks for chasing my request!

Poppycat!

KathleenBell!

thanks for the suggestion ...i have all of Frederick's Service Records that are available
was not able to find any at all regarding WW1 ....
so believed he had either died or
Migrated to Canada, USA or Aust where i am....but cannot find him on records here.
I have been searching for some years now on & off!

Thankyou for helping me out...

Poppycat!