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Robert Douglas Hardie

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Alison

Alison Report 6 Jan 2020 20:50

I am looking for any living relatives of Robert Douglas Hardie.
He was my maternal grandfather. I always thought he was born in Scotland but it may have been in St Pancreas in London.
I know he married my grandmother in Jersey, Channel Islands in 1915 and my mum was born in Jersey in 1919.
All I know is that he took my mum and grandmother to live in the UK in Coventry and he returned to India to rejoin his regiment. this was approx 1926/27 and that was when they last heard about him.
I can find a Robert Douglas Hardie on the 1939 register but he was married to someone else in the Coventry area. My mum returned to Jersey before the war started and my grandmother went to live with her sister in Winchester (1939 register).
Hoping someone can help me solve this mystery. Neither my mum or grandmother would talk about things!
Thank you
Ally

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 20:57

Just for ref ages http://search.jerripediabmd.net/BMD_UserStuff/Marriages


30 Nov 1915 Robert Douglas Hardie Evelyn Victoria Chappel
Born abt 1887 Born abt 1893
9 St Helier Corrections/Suggestions for
Robert Douglas & Evelyn Victoria

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 21:02

His attestation record is on Findmypast, giving POB as St Pancras, on discharge as St Helier

Lives Of The First World War 1914-1918


Robert Douglas Hardie
Medal rolls and honours Record
Great Britain
Year of service: 1914
Robert D Hardie
Medal rolls and honours Record
Great Britain
Year of service: 1914
Robt. Douglas Hardie
Regimental & service records Record
Great Britain
Year of service: 1907
Robert Douglas Hardie
Medal rolls and honours Record
Great Britain
Year of service: 1914
First name(s) Robert Douglas
Last name Hardie
Birth year 1886
Birth date -
Service number 1403299
Rank Staff Serjeant
Year 1914-18
Death year -
Death date -
Corps Supply And Transport Corps
Service British Army
Stories -
Links
Robert Douglas: Medal Index Card
Source
View the Source record
User facts
First names : Robert Douglas
Place of Birth : United Kingdom London
Country Great Britain
Record set Lives Of The First World War 1914-1918
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 21:04

1911 census

1911 Census For England & Wales
Peshawar North West Frontier Provinces, Overseas Military, Ships and Overseas Establishments

First name(s) Robert Douglas
Last name Hardie
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Age 24
Birth year 1887
Birth place St Pancras London
Occupation -
House name -
House number -
Street Peshawar North West Frontier Provinces
Address Peshawar North West Frontier Provinces
Parish -
County Overseas Military
Country Ships And Overseas Establishments
Archive reference RG14
Registration district number 641
Enumeration district 15
District number 15
Sub district number 8
Census reference RG14PN34983 RD641 SD8 ED15 SN9999

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 21:05

Likely birth

HARDIE, ROBERT DOUGLAS mmn SIMMONDS
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 21

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 21:08

Possible siblings?

HARDIE, CHRISTIANA EMILY SIMMONDS
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 147
HARDIE, JESSIE SIMMONDS
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 127

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 21:10

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Torriano Cottages, 11, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England

Thomas Hardie Head Married Male 54 1847 Labourer General Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England
Emily Hardie Wife Married Female 50 1851 - Scotland
Robert Hardie Son Single Male 14 1887 Messenger St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Christina Hardie Daughter - Female 12 1889 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Jessie Hardie Daughter - Female 10 1891 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 21:15

Mother's death
EMILY
Last name HARDIE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1851
Age 56
Death quarter 1
Death year 1907
District Pancras
County London
Volume 1B
Page 97

Robert's possible death 1960 Deaths Mar 1960 (>99%)
HARDIE Robert D 73 Wellington 9a 237

and probate record can be seen giving widow as May.
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 21:42


First name(s) Robert D
Last name Hardie
Year 1914-20
Service number 26991, 1403299
Second service number 26991
Third service number 1403299
Rank Sergeant,Staff Sergeant,Staff Sergeant
Second rank Staff Sergeant
Third rank Staff Sergeant
Regiment Royal Garrison Artillery, Royal Artillery, Supply And Transport Corps
Second corps Royal Artillery
Third corps Supply And Transport Corps
Service record Soldier Number: 26991, Rank: Sergeant, Corps: Royal Garrison Artillery
Second service record Soldier Number: 26991, Rank: Staff Sergeant, Corps: Royal Artillery
Third service record Soldier Number: 1403299, Rank: Staff Sergeant, Corps: Supply and Transport Corps
Image link
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/9

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 21:56

Possible? May had previously been married to Howells, maiden name Buttifant

Marriages Dec 1943 (>99%)
Hardie Robert Howells Wellington 6a 1687
Howells May Hardie Wellington 6a 1687

May Hardie (Howells)'s life in 1939
38 Urban Gardens, Wellington U.D., Shropshire, England

Tom Howells 07 Jul 1887 Male Private Gardener Heavy Worker Married 151 1
May Hardie (Howells) 18 Apr 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 151 2
Mary Buttifant 13 Nov 1863 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 151 3
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?

Don't appear to be any children to Robert and May.

her death cert would give informant

Deaths Sep 1974 (>99%)
HARDIE MAY 18AP1892 SHREWSBURY 30 243

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Jan 2020 22:15

1891 reverses the POB for parents

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Crown Place, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England

Thomas Hardie Head Married Male 44 1847 Pastry Cook Scotland
Emily Hardie Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Boarstall, Buckinghamshire, England
Alexander Hardie Son Single Male 16 1875 Bakers Carman Scotland
Frederick W Hardie Son Single Male 13 1878 Scholar Kentish Town
Lillie W Hardie Daughter Single Female 9 1882 Scholar Kentish Town
Robert Hardie Son Single Male 4 1887 Scholar Kentish Town
Christina Hardie Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Kentish Town
Jessie Hardie Daughter Single Female 0 1891 -

Maybe a second marriage for Thomas?

He's on 1911

1911 Census For England & Wales
Dartmouth Park Hill Highgate N, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England


First name(s) Thomas
Last name Hardie
Relationship -
Marital status Widower
Sex Male
Age 65
Birth year 1846
Birth place Scotland Lestie
Occupation Baker
House name -
House number -
Street Dartmouth Park Hill
Address Dartmouth Park Hill Highgate N
Parish St Pancras
County London, Middlesex

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jan 2020 08:47

After such a long time it’s possible he may have obtained a divorce so was able to remarry

I would be inclined to get the marriage cert to May to see his marital status and who he named as his father

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Jan 2020 11:42

??????
ROBERT D
Last name HARDIE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1887
Age 73
Death quarter 1
Death year 1960
District Wellington (Shropshire)
County Shropshire
Volume 9A
Page 237
Country England

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Jan 2020 13:44

As Alison is new to the board and may not realise that she won't automatically receive notification of replies, I have just sent a PM letting her know there are some and how to return to her thread. :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Jan 2020 15:17

Name: Robert Douglas Hardie
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1887
Marriage Date: 30 Nov 1915
Marriage Place: St Helier, Jersey
Parish as it Appears: St Helier
Search Photos: Search for 'St Helier' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Thomas Hardie
Spouse: Evelyn Victoria Chappel

Name: Robert Douglas Hardy
[Robert Douglas Hardie]
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Nov 1886
Baptism Place: Regent´s Park St Mark, Camden, England
Father: Thomas Hardy
Mother: Emily Hardy
Register Type: Parish Register

probate
of 38 urban gardens wellington died at the cottage hosp wiington on 24/01/1960
admin to may hadie widow
effects £430 15s 10d

Name: Robert Douglas Hardie
Death Date: 24 Jan 1960
Death Place: Shropshire, England
Probate Date: 26 Feb 1960
Probate Registry: Chester, England

Name: May Hardie
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: 18 Apr 1892
Registration Date: Jul 1974
[Aug 1974]
[Sep 1974]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Shrewsbury
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 30

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Jan 2020 15:22

mays 1st husband death
Name: Tom Howells
Death Age: 55
Birth Date: abt 1888
Registration Date: Jan 1943
[Feb 1943]
[Mar 1943]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Wellington
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 944