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Yes Gray, I probably forgot the tomato sauce.....lol BC

Gray thank you for telling us the story of the Mother and the baby she must have been so deperate,I hope they get over it and are able to look forward. Davex

I was smiling, ruefully I must admit, at Ann and the pizza. A couple of years ago I went to my local fish and chip shop and was followed in a woman with a baby....she begged pitifully, that she was starving...so I gave her my fish and chips, she looked at them and went outside and threw them in the bin! lol BC

Dave, your friend surely was a very brave man,and from what you have said, you must hold some really lovely memorys of him close to your heart. of course you miss him friends like that are few and far between ,but how lucky you were to have had the privilege to share his friendship for so long. Shirley

I read that in th paper too. How desperate she must have been to take that action. They are saying hat they don't know how they both survived such a long drop without the Mother letting go of her baby. 'They' obviously don't understand the power of a Mother's love for a child. Ann Glos

Yes i am sure she will now, but what length she had to go to get it. The only consolation is she will probably now get her life back on track with the help and kindness of people she had never met before, where are her family i wonder? Shirley.

Oh Gray, this upsets me too, and angers me also, someone somewhere must have known this girl, they were just too busy doing what they have to do i suppose, to notice the torment this young woman was going through. sometimes all it takes is a little of someones time to prevent something like this happening. It is not over for her yet as now she may well not be allowed to have her child back for a long time. Shirley.

Ann, that was a really nice thing you did, those left over pizzas were probably their main meal of the day. I agree it is wise to be careful, and i would never suggest anyone should put theirself at risk, a smile as you pass by is better than nothing at all. Shirley.

Good to see an encouraging thread. There are still many, many good people around. On the subject of homeless people, once when we were in London with friends we went to a pizza place but couldn't manage to eat all the pizzas. i had an idea, although husband and friends thought i was slightly mad at the time (they changed their minds later). I asked for a box to take out the left over pieces and we walked to the underpass at Hyde park (our car was in the underground car park so we had already walked through there once that day). There were two lads sitting down there and I asked them if they would like the left over pizzas. I was a bit embarrassed at offering them left overs but they were so grateful for what we gave them. so, yes I always count my blessings, that I have a happy life, food and drink and shelter and a wonderful family. I have to admit to being nervous about approaching some of the men laying around the towns these days as drink and drugs can make them quite aggressive sometimes. But I never feel censorious towards them as we don't know what has caused their 'downfall'. Ann Glos

What ever awful things happen around us we all go on as normal, which is as it should be, it is life. But i have to say i feel really effected by the thread today telling us of the 4 youths involved in a car accident, one, an 18yr old girl died. There are no words to discribe the pain those families are suffering. Another example that there are people worse of than you.

Yes think I would go for the baby as well never quite sure of how prams trolleys go nowadays.But these buses where you leave them up are much better. I had a friend he died 22 years ago.He was such a inspiration to me how brave he was.Walter was never a robust type of a man so when a strain of TB was going about it was odds on that he would catch it and he did.Well he got TB and fought it and got over it.But 6 months later he developed lung cancer which he vowed to fight as well.He had the chemotherapy at the Christie Hospital in Manchester his hair all fell out but he was always an happy man with such a sunny disposition,I can remember as though it was yesterday him coming to my house on his Motorbike and taking his helmet off and the toupee because his hair had fell out staying inside the helmet he laughed so much and so did we with him.He had two kids in their late teens and he loved them to bits and they loved him because he was such a happy and brave man even though he had been through so much.He was in remission and thought he was going to beat that dreadful disease and joked to me 'Dave Ive had TB and Cancer Im going to try Berry Berry and Yellow Fever Next' that was the humour of this brave man. The day he died I went to his house in the morning and he wasn't his usual sunny self we spoke but I could tell he was so ill and I said I would come back later and see him.Walter my best friend died before I could get back that evening aged 42 and I still miss him very much he was so nice to me my wife and young children at the time.God Bless you Walter I am proud to have known you. Davexx

LOL Sue.... I had shopping too so the baby was the easy option!! I probably would have made a fool of myself trying to do the pram!! LOL Karen PS i have been there too!!

you are making me feel guilty karen- cos i always grab the pram ! but still remember trying to get on a bus with a folded up twin buggie, 2 boys aged 6 months and 2 years- and wishing someone would help ! sue !

LOL Just to lighten it up a bit.... When i am doing the house work my daughter asks what she can do to help....... I always say.... Disappear!!?? well thats what my mum used to say!! Karen

Karen, I agree with you I would sooner do someone a good turn than a bad, there is enough hardship in this world, Wendy.xx

The world is populated with wonderful people too!! I did a very small thing last monday... I helped a frustrated mother onto a bus by carrying her screaming child onto the bus while she struggled with folding the pushy, managing the shopping bags and trying to find change in her purse! All with tears in her eyes!!!!! I know it was just a small thing but it made my day that i helped her! Like my Mum used to say....... Its nice to be nice!!! Karen

Dave, my niece had an asthma attack and it caused heart failure, she was on life support for a month, my brother held her in his arms when they turned the machine off. Seeing the devastation it caused my brother and his wife made me realise never to feel sorry for myself. Thankyou for this thread, Wendy.xx

Purple Petunia, i have just read your reply,and i have to say i found it very heart warming. you probably made that mans day, and as you say it makes you feel so good when you see how happy you have made someone less fortunate than yourself. I think you did the right thing by not giving this chap money, he probably was more than happy that you had actually given him a bit of your time.If he should ever get his life back on track he will probably always remember the kind lady that gave him a little of her time when he most needed it. I only wish there were more people about like you. Take care. Shirley.

Shirley, thanks, I will pass on your message to my son. He is a very compassionate young man but then I suppose I drilled it in to him a bit. We never had much as I am a single parent and his father lives abroad so minimal help or contact there but even at an early age we shopped at Charity shops and I explained why, apart from the fact that our money went further, it also helped other people. Also when Live Aid was on before, he was only a little boy but I watched some of it with him sitting on my lap and explained that the children and families on the television did not even have what little we had and I think that message has always stuck. He does not suffer fools gladly but is kind and thoughtful. I couldn't want for more from him - he makes me very proud. Before Christmas last year I saw a chap and his dog sitting near by some shops and he was reading a book. I had bought some biscuits and stuff 2 for 1 price so offered him some and had a word with him about his dog and himself. He told me he had had the dog for 12 years and it was his only real friend. He was a pleasant chap and when I saw him later talking to another chap of similar ilk, he saw me and gave me a smile and a wink. Later that month I saw him again and I was actually with my partner who isn't that compassionate, so I told him I 'd spoken to him before and asked him for some money to get some food - I don't like to give money as it might buy too much alcohol. My partner actually gave me all his change and I went into the Pound shop and got cake and bscuits, snack bars and such to help him out - I took the carrier bag full of things to the man and he was so grateful - it made me feel very happy and even my partner seemed ok with it. There but for the grace of God....

Morning David, this is one of Mums most used 'sayings', if we are to moan about anything, that it what she says :)