General Chat

What is the point? Nothing to do with terrorism, the security services tell it would not stop a determined terrorist. Nothing to do with fraud, that’s what chip and pin is all about. My personal opinion is that they are using excuses to force ID cards upon use and that makes me very suspicious as to their motive for wanting ID cards, I smell a SMOKING GUN then I asked my self the question WHY. Can we trust this or any other government to only use the cards for what was intended? I think NOT, We are becoming a police state. Roy

We dont have an option here in the U.S. you have to carry a picture I.D. even more strict these days our Government wants a physical address on everyone due to Homeland Security tighening their grip..They can even check your library card to see what books you read!!

I'm totally opposed to ID cards. :-)

On past experience any Government database is going to be unreliable and unsecure. The DVLA database has only to match a vehicle registration number to a name and address, yet it is only 40% correct. With an ID card you will be fined £1,000 if you do not notify a change of address. Only the law-abiding honest citizen will have to comply, the half a million illegal immigrants will stay undercover and unrecorded, as now. Visitors to the Country will go unrecorded and untested. Unless the police can demand your papers (I D Card), without any cause, and then can detain anyone without a card until they can prove that they are in the Country legally. Shades of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. The potential costs are horrendous, since the only way to check if someone presenting an ID card is who they say they are will to be to repeat the biometric tests at your bank, post office, Council office, Benefit Office, and so on. Who's going to pay for all that equipment and the staff to operate it? The concept is potty. And the shakiness of the justification is shown that the official reason for requiring them has changed more often than Elizabeth Taylor changed husbands. I am afraid they will have to drag me kicking and screaming to the torture chamber to get my biometric details!

I'm with you on this one Joan :O)) No objections - after all I have a passport and a photo driving licence. But I don't see why I should have to pay for it cos the Government want me to carry one !!!

From the BBC news site: 'Home Secretary Charles Clarke had said a stand-alone ID card would cost £30, while one linked to a passport would cost £93. But that figure has been disputed, most notably by a London School of Economics report estimating the cards could cost up to £300 each.' Slight difference between £30 and £300, wouldn't you say? And if we have a state-of-the-art ID card, why do we need a passport? nell

LOL Looks like we are in agreement then ! Nell, methinks this could be Tone's way of boosting his pension somehow ! :0) Joan

I object to being made to have one. Even more than that, I object to being forced to pay for one:))

I'll carry one happily if it will do away with all the other forms of ID required, but I hope the cost is only going to be one outlay, and not something that needs renewing every year. CB >|<

I have no objection whatsoever to carrying an ID card. I don't drive and I haven't got a passport..... but I certainly will not be paying £100 to prove that I'm me.

I cant see that if 'whoever ' decides we must have them, that we can be MADE to pay £100 for the pleasure. Jess x

I'd happily carry one but not pay for one, it'd have to be free. I've got nothing to hide. Louise

Well if I can be convinced that they will somehow be more effective than the traditional passport/driver's licence/credit card which has stood me in good stead when I've needed to prove I'm me, I might have one. BUT I don't see why I should pay. Maybe Tone could donate some of his pension money if he thinks its that important. nell

I don't object to carrying one I have nothing to hide, as long as Tony B. liar will fork out the £100 it's gonna cost for one !! Why should I have to pay that much if I don't have an income ? :0( Joan