General Chat

If you want the truth watch Last of the Summer Wine. Women always have ruled, the men were just the muscle.

I donrt know Shady i havn't seen one yet

Well, I asked my husband, whom I consider to be very manly as you describe yet sensitive at the same time, what it is that keeps him faithful and attentive to me. He mentioned 'love' and 'honour' in the same sentence.

now Fred i will award you my first <(*U*)> an i but you dont knowmwhat he is but modest isnt you is it lol

Love and honour. What happened to obey? Happy days

I like a real man and think my other half certainly is one. I think though that women have got more womanly! Jack x

Harry Never said that at my wedding, just somthing about impediments?? then i dont remember much of my wedding anyway except the date,and every time we drive past ,husband shakes his fists

I am still not quite sure what this Manly thing really is. I think if a man is loyal and loving to me, that is what counts. I want him to be sensitive to my needs. The only way we could go back to men being 'manly' would be that they are the bread winners and we sit at home bringing up the kids and chained to the sink. In this day and age that is neither inviting nor plausable. Generally you both need an income to provide a decent roof over your head. In that case with you both working the man has to become more sensitive to you and help around the house doing those less manly jobs. Men have had to be more sensitive and if that changed it would mean us women having to jeopordise the independence that has taken many years for us to achieve. I consider my Boyf a real man even though he may help out around the house and care about my feelings. I don't think it's a bad thing for us to be on a more equal par.

We wrote our own wedding vows, Harry and they said nothing about 'obey'. :-) My grandfather, some years ago, had this to say on the subject - 'Since time immemorial that have been men and women who respected one another for the different strengths they brought to a marriage and each carved out their own unique role. Then it became 'cool' (in modern parlance) to behave as if all men were better than all women. Then came the Feminist movement as backlash to this, with some women trying to do without men altogether. Now we have talk of 'new' men who are really 'old style' men who kept quiet all along. There have alwyas been 'hard' men and bullies, always been 'softer', gentler men and the media and novels plays to peoples fantasies, nothing more. Each good marriage is different and personal and nothing if not based on respect for the individual.' A wise man, my Grandad, don't you think?

Sounds about right to me, Felicity. Happy days

ive always loved men to protect us girlies, ruffty tuffty men, i was disappointed to read in a magazine this week a marriage cant work if the women expects a man to protect her, it should be work on as equals, doing the caring, well i agree with the caring, but disagree with the bit about not seeing your man as there to protect you

Oh Julie, that's awful!! Yet another example I think when 'equal' is seen as 'same' and they are not the same thing at all. I certainly need my husband's protection from some things and would also say that in some respects, women protect men, but not from the same things. It all depends on your definition and concept of 'protection' I suppose. Besides, who says that a marriage as they describe can't work - there are as many kinds of marriage as there are married couples.

omg i thought it read Real men in danger of education.Sorry lol Annie

And when exactly was that, Fred? Those words don't sit comfortably in the same sentence - unless you're a man, of course, and somewhat illiterate. :-)