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Can anyone help please I'm trying to find my maternal grandmother on a census of some kind
Ethel may Rose was born in higham Kent in 1893. Mother's maiden name was springhall.
Aged 7, she lived with her sister in law, Alice Terry, in Northfleet Kent.
Aged 17, she lives and works at shaws laundry. Gravesend. I guess she then marries and becomes Ethel may Carnell

Why cant I find her anywhere between 0,and 7.

Because there was no census between 1891 and 1901, so there's nowhere for her to appear!

Possibility would be if you could find a school record for her starting school. There are school records that have been transcribed for some areas, London is particularly good.

You'd have to google Northfleet to see if there are any for there.

Her birth

ROSE, ETHEL MAY SPRINGHALL
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in STROOD Volume 02A Page 552


Has at least one sister

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ROSE, MINNIE SPRINGHALL
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in MAIDSTONE Volume 02A Page 713

Probably has more siblings in view of marriage year

Marriages Dec 1876
Rose William Edward Medway 2a 821
Springhall Ann Eliza Medway 2a 821

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ROSE, ALICE SPRINGHALL
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in MAIDSTONE Volume 02A Page 617
ROSE, AMY SPRINGHALL
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in MAIDSTONE Volume 02A Page 667

1881 census

William E. Rose
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Ann E. Rose
Gender: Male
Where born: Rochester, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Maidstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 14 Grecian St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Engine Smith
Registration district: Maidstone
Sub registration district: East Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 931
Folio: 138
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
William E. Rose 26
Ann E. Rose 25
Alice Rose 3
Amy Rose 2
Thomas Rose 1
Albert Rose

But by 1891 ann Eliza was a widow !

Ann E Rose
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1856
Child: Alice Rose
William E Rose
Birth Place: Rochester, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Higham
Ecclesiastical parish: Higham St Mary
Residence Place: Higham, Higham, Kent, England
Registration district: Strood
Sub registration district: Strood
ED, Institution or Vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 652
Folio: 76
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann E Rose 35
Alice Rose 14 occ domestic servant
William E Rose 5

Address chequers street

Alice married

Marriages Sep 1897
Rose Alice Gravesend 2a 1047
Terry Frances Thomas Gravesend 2a 1047

So she is sister to Alice Terry and sister in law to francis terry

You won’t find any records between census unless it’s school or maybe workhouse


She married in1913

Ethel M Rose
Spouse Surname: Carnell
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Medway
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1151Albert Carnell


Wonder who she puts as father on the cert

She isn’t living with Francis and Alice in 1911

Possibly Ann was in the strood workhouse

Ann Rose
Gender: Female
Admission Age: 47
Discharge Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1856
Discharge Date: 10 Apr 1903
Discharge Place: Medway, Kent, England
From Whence Admitted: Chatham
Record Type: Discharge
Parish or Poor Law Union: Medway Union
Register: Admission and Discharge (1903-1905)

Discharged at own request

Maybe

Ann Rose
Death Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1856
From Whence Admitted: Chatham
Death Date: 10 Apr 1903
Death Place: Medway, Kent, England
Record Type: Death
Parish or Poor Law Union: Medway Union
Register: Death (1902-1914)
Buried Chatham cemetery

But there are more than one ann rose

Thanks x