General Chat

Glad to be of help Suzanne, but I do so hope that you didn't pay to go on newspaper sites before you joined the Lancashire Library or looked at the Ozzie site...both free to join, even if you live abroad.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

And...... Google Lancashire libraries.....email or fill out form online to join and ask for your number today

This goes for Newcastle Libraries too

well susan

you have been very helpful to me,and cost me a bomb

I thank you for all of your research and helpful links :-D

yes.....that was the only reference on the gale site.....there are many more references on the Australian newspaper archive site.

KILLED BY A BURGLAR: THE WINDY NOOK MURDER .
The Penny Illustrated Paper and Illustrated Times (London, England), Saturday, November 09, 1907; pg. [289]; Issue 2424.

Hope this helps Susan.

Give us a hint mr magoo....each time I click on the link it tells me my session is over and I have to re-enter my number

:-D :-D :-D :-D Mr Magoo, I fear I am trying to post and making little sense as it is,

Happy New Year :-)

edit, it is very disconcerting to see Susan's lovely avatar ( her true image i am sure) squashed up as though she has been sandwiched between book ends :-)

Have another glass Rose and see if it's any better......... ;-)

I hope it's the link that has extended the page, either that or that glass of wine was very strong :-S

Sorry about extending the page but thought you might like too see this.

http://find.galegroup.com/bncn/retrieve.do?sgHitCountType=None&sort=DateAscend&prodId=BNCN&tabID=T012&subjectParam=Locale%2528en%252C%252C%2529%253AFQE%253D%2528tx%252CNone%252C14%2529%2522Joseph%2BNoble%2522%253AAnd%253AFQE%253D%2528ba%252CNone%252C6%2529%25222MWV%2522%2524&resultListType=RESULT_LIST&searchId=R7&displaySubject=&searchType=AdvancedSearchForm¤tPosition=1&qrySerId=Locale%28en%2C%2C%29%3AFQE%3D%28tx%2CNone%2C14%29%22Joseph+Noble%22%3AAnd%3AFQE%3D%28ba%2CNone%2C6%29%222MWV%22%3AAnd%3ALQE%3D%28MB%2CNone%2C16%29%22BLN1%22+OR+%22BLN2%22%24&retrieveFormat=MULTIPAGE_DOCUMENT&subjectAction=DISPLAY_SUBJECTS&inPS=true&userGroupName=lancs&sgCurrentPosition=0&contentSet=LTO&&docId=&docLevel=FASCIMILE&workId=&relevancePageBatch=BA3207767158&contentSet=UBER2&callistoContentSet=UBER2&docPage=article&hilite=y

here is the copy of the penny magazine with an inset of the murdered man.


http://www.pictorialgems.com/1908-Windy-Nook-Murder-Killed-By-A-Burglar-Lord-Mayor-Show.39402


This paper has a more in depth version of the proceeds and elaborates on the story.


http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/56464440?searchTerm=%20Windy%20Nook&searchLimits=

will ask my son to try and get it on the laptop.

just been on amazon and bought several books on the case.

debit card melted. :-D

I expect you can get the trial papers from The national archives


CRIMINAL - LIST OF CRIMINAL CASES, INCLUDING EXTRADITION CASES: NOBLE, Joseph William Court: Durham Offence: ...
Home Office: Registered Papers, Supplementary. CRIMINAL - LIST OF CRIMINAL CASES, INCLUDING EXTRADITION CASES: NOBLE, Joseph William Court: Durham Offence: Murder Sentence: Death.
Collection:Records created or inherited by the Home Office, Ministry of Home Security, and related bodiesDate range: 01 January 1908 - 31 December 1908 Reference:HO 144/874/163030Subjects:Crime

yes but I think you can still view it......maybe.

oh dont get that tv channel susan.

in wales its ITV wales :-D

Only one as far as i know Suzanne......she got 6 months hard labour in Chelmsford Prison for stealing glasses.

I've got the link to the old Bailey Trial.

I've seen some of the newspaper articles, there are a lot of them over a number of days. I've not printed them off though.

Ilove interesting family history stories,but hey it just gets interesting when ive only got a month left on genes :-(

did anyone else commit crimes in your family MR MAGOO?

Ours started and finished with Joseph Noble :-)

Programme ID: T/0398
Gm library type: TTT Production
Programme title: PAST CRIMES
Production title: MURDER IN STORE
Synopsis: MURDER IN STORE' At 7.30 p.m. on Thursday 22 December 2005 - In November of 1907 the country was shocked by a brutal killing in a Co-op store at Windy Nook in Gateshead. It was a cautionary tale of what can happen when respectable citizens take the law into their own hands. Goods had been going missing from the store with no signs of forced entry. Members of the local Co-op committee feared it was an inside job and didn't want to involve the police because it would bring scandal on the good name of the North Eastern Co-operative Society. So one dark night, three committee members and a young Co-op apprentice lay in wait for the thief. They tackled him and there was a violent struggle. Suddenly the man pulled out a gun and shot one man, John Patterson, through the head. The victim died several hours later. Christopher Carr was wounded in the hip which left him permanently disabled. The intruder ran off, bravely pursued by one Mrs Ather, who lived above the stores and was married to one of the committee men. Clad only in a nightdress and brandishing an axe, she gave chase but the killer made off. Police enquiries soon led them to Joseph William Noble, a local colliery blacksmith. They found large amounts of Co-op goods in his stores, plus tools of his trade which could also be used for housebreaking. But there was one problem - the committee members all knew Joe Noble and they all swore the man in the shop had been a stranger. But when Noble's trial went ahead, the weight of circumstantial evidence persuaded them that Noble must have been the man after all. The blacksmith went to the gallows on March 24th 1908, protesting his innocence to the end. His last words to the executioner were: "Don't hurt my neck". KIM INGLIS presents another programme that reconstructs the events of that fateful night and examines the evidence which put him in the frame. PAST CRIMES is a Suedunnit production for ITV Tyne Tees.
Series title: PAST CRIMES (SERIES 2)
Series ID: T/0398-02
Credits text: Presenter - KIM INGLIS Producer - SUE DRUMMOND Executive Producer - GRAEME THOMPSON A Suedunnit production for ITV Tyne Tees.
Paris company: TYNE TEES TELEVISION
Genre: FACTUAL
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First TX date: 2005-12-22
Production area: REGIONAL PROGRAMMES
Production type: PROGRAMME
Version type: UK VERSION
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Picture style: Colour
Sound style: Stereo
Slot time: 30
Commissioner: TYNE TEES TELEVISION
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Production companies: SUEDUNNIT LIMITED
- See more at: http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist/ITVProgs/2005/12/22/T03980011/?s=Windy%20AND%20Nook#sthash.fs8QHTJj.dpuf

Oh don't start me off Mr M.....have you got all you need with newspaper articles?......my forte :-D

My GGrandfathers sister married a guy who was involved in "The Barnes Murder" in 1879 in London.
Catherine Webster murdered Julia Thomas.

http://murderpedia.org/female.W/w/webster-catherine.htm

David Attenborough and his wife Jane bought a house situated between the former Mayfield Cottages (which still stand today) in 1952 and the Hole in the Wall pub. Workmen found a skull and it was proved that it was Thomas'.