General Chat

This is not really part of this thread but can I just put in my thoughts about sporting activity?

I think, as part of their anti-obesity campaign, that the government should consider providing the opportunity to the obese to take part in some sporting activity.

Those who play football into adulthood do it for the social experience as much as anything else but this has been denied the obese, just exacerbating a problem. The obese would probably love to take part in some sort of sporting activity but don't have it available after they leave school. yes, there are gyms where we can puff and blow and feel inadequate beside the superfit. Ask yourself if you would like the experience. There are also swimming pools where you can waddle in past tittering boys for people to have a quiet smirk at your efforts.

I would like there to be dedicated times for us porkers to play team games out of sight of the smirking public. There would have to be a doctor available but it would give some of them the chance to put their money where their mouth is.

I did once put this idea to the twelve year old manager of our local leisure centre but he said that if they did that they would have to have special facilities for the super fit as well, which I assumed they had as they have a special committee for the over sixties.

Brian, in this instance, prone, is able bodied lying on the floor, using elbows as a support,
in a wheelchair, is sitting with elbows on a table, or on a shelf arrangement fitted to the chair...........
but yes there ARE many variations to cater for different disadvantages.....
Bob

There are certain sports, and wheelchair basketball seems a good example, where being unable to walk does not impose a disadvantage and maybe should be open to all.
However, an amputee, unless they have weights or artificial legs of the same weight as another disabled person who has simply lost the use of their legs would be disadvantaged in that their centre of gravity would be higher and thus they would be less stable.
In shooting a wheelchair user would seem to have an advantage in that they are sitting in a situation where an able bodied person would have to stand so it makes sense for that to be a separate discipline.
Getting a level playing field is always going to be difficult.

I saw it the same way as Rambling Rose

Actually thought it was a good advert.

I just don't want Fred to see it!!!

We all see things from a different perspective I guess it doesn't make us right or wrong.

My ex son in law belongs to a local wheelchair basketball team. My Grandson sometimes joins them, which is marvellous because it is the only sport he can play with his Dad. If they did not allow able bodied members in their group, they may not be able to get a team together.
It is a fast & furious game enjoyed by all.

But maybe if at least some people are getting the wrong message then the producers of the advert have not quite got it right.

not wrong Brian,, just the way it looked to you, at the time.....

Bob

Seems as though I'm wrong !!!

No, one of them actually IS needing the wheelchair ( though obviously they are all actors I assume) the point of the scenario is to show that friends include each other in their activities.... the guy actually in the wheelchair is shown joining his mates as an 'equal' in the pub ( drinking Guiness) , after the game where they joined him as 'equals' playing his sport.

I don't ........I believe that it is meant to tie up to the REAL disabled people that play these games in wheelchairs,

have you seen how much of a contact sport it is?

we in the target sports shooting disciplines maintain that it is just as easy for a disabled person to learn to shoot, on equal terms as a fully abled shooter, .given the right equipment and training.........even blind people can be trained to shoot well......

Bob

there is a guy that is wheelchair bound and also a successful Olympic shot scoring maximum possibles on several occasions.(possible= 600 points out of 600........60 consecutive perfect bullseyes)

Would it be right to report it if you were not in a wheelchair yourself?

Would it not be patronizing to take offence on behalf of those who can make their own decisions as to whether to take offence or not?

report it

sally w <3

Playing sport in a wheelchair is a whole new skill that appeals to able- bodied athletes maybe?

I agree on one hand its saying "you can do it" then its taking it away from you. I think its in bad taste if you need a wheelchair you don't just get up and walk. They need good role models to say hey its ok to be in a chair - it's you and that's cool. The message really coming through is its not ok or fine you need to walk to be normal. I don't like it but that's my opinion.

The advert currently being shown where the sportsmen are playing basketball in wheelchairs, at the end they get up & walk away, what a huge insult to those who cant.
Maybe I'm wrong i don't know.