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Under 25s housing benefit to go?

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ChAoTicintheNewYear

ChAoTicintheNewYear Report 16 Jul 2013 21:46

Not once they've turned 18. Then they're on their own.

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 16 Jul 2013 21:11

then dazedconfused social servises will step in
i think
same as for kids in care ;-)

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 16 Jul 2013 20:38

What if the 'child' has no choice but to leave the family home through abuse.

This is all very arbitary.


They should be chasing those who do not pay their business taxes, which is worth billions and not chasing the few million or less they can save this way.

Again hitting those who can least afford to be targeted.


ChAoTicintheNewYear

ChAoTicintheNewYear Report 16 Jul 2013 20:04

Sadly, Stray, you're right, it never will.

Nolls, agree with you but there isn't anyone who will stand up and say it. Well, no one who has any influence anyway.

Nolls from Harrogate

Nolls from Harrogate Report 16 Jul 2013 19:49

OK I'm not saying wither it's right or wrong but doesn't is seem to be a bit of age discrimination ? :-S

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Jul 2013 19:49

:-D at Cat.

Just wait, I predict the working tax credits topping up the income for those not being paid a living wage...(ie one that actually meets bills, housing, and food) ...will be the next to have a spotlight put on them...but not until after the next election assuming this lot get in again.

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 16 Jul 2013 19:46

:-0 thats never going to happen lololoolol

ChAoTicintheNewYear

ChAoTicintheNewYear Report 16 Jul 2013 19:44

"93% of new people claiming housing benefit in the past two years were working."

http://ourwelfareworks.com/the-truth/housing-benefit/


If employers paid a living wage then there would be no need to scrap housing benefit for those in the 18 - 25yr old category because there would be considerably less people claiming hb overall. Funny how people never seem to think about this but instead blame the lazy scroungers who don't work...oh, wait.

Annx

Annx Report 16 Jul 2013 19:35

Couldn't afford to jump ship from your parents when I was young, so if you didn't get on, you learned to be tolerant and that you couldn't just do as you liked in life and have what you wanted when you wanted it. You also paid a fair rate of board.

One of the problems today is that children become adults, but without taking responsibilty for themselves as adults as parents still see them as 'children'. Parents bail them out, let them live at home free......do everything for them. Some just 'fall' pregnant like contraception hasn't been invented yet and grandparents take that on as well. Don't get me wrong, there are always genuine, unfortunate circs, but I think this may be the wake up call some need.

Being an adult doesn't mean you don't have responsibilities until you have a family, it means taking responsibility for yourself, contributing in your parents' home, doing chores as well as paying your way as much as possible if you live there to help pay your parents back and show your appreciation. You take any kind of work you can. It used to be called 'standing on your own feet'.

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Jul 2013 19:34

Sorry Jax ~~~ not ignoring you, I was just looking to see if it said anything new about under 25s with children.

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Jul 2013 19:34

Sorry Jax ~~~ not ignoring you, I was just looking to see if it said anything new about under 25s with children.

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Jul 2013 19:27

LOL Stray I wonder if you will say that when your little one takes over the whole house, eats like a horse, and towers over you so that you have to stand two stairs up to look him in the eye ;-) :-D edit :and brings home girl or boyfriends you don't like ;-)

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 16 Jul 2013 19:23

i think they should make it as hard as possible for your babys to leave you, so that they have to stay wih you forever ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) lol

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 16 Jul 2013 19:16

yes rose
we get on with ours because they had boundrys
and that give stability :-D :-D

instead of giving housing benifits
they should provide more strict hostel care
and that should only go to those in further education

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Jul 2013 19:14

Housing benefit paid for under 25s is apparently 8 % of the husing benefit paid out

"Shelter said there was no evidence that young people were living outside the family home because they could take up housing benefit, adding that under-25's already received the lower shared room rate of benefit introduced in 1996.

The charity added that the DWP's own family resources survey showed that 56% of under-25s without children already lived with their parents, 19% were in shared student accommodation, 8% lived in flat shares and only 10% lived independently."

"The Shelter chief executive, Campbell Robb, said: "Most under-25s who can live with their parents are already do so. Being under 25 is being used as shorthand for people who don't have responsibilities or adult commitments, whereas in reality more than half of young people who claim housing benefit already have a family of their own."

Dan asked when it was on the news whether I would want hm here till he was 25 lolol, I said by then he was likely to be climbing the wall to get away from me ;-)

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Jul 2013 19:08

ah but you get on with yours as I do mine Joy, but what happens if you don't? or just simply can't afford the extra costs (council tax for one).

This area the figure for youth unemployment is about 24% I think 18-24 years) now ok some of those will be those who choose not to work at 'anything'...but lots will want to and not find jobs.

What about those who really just need to escape from home circumstances? there are enough homeless youngsters who have fled from 'bad' homes already...we always gasp when we hear of abuse against children and yet how many young adults will have no choice but to stay, or be out on the streets?

jax

jax Report 16 Jul 2013 18:59

Ummmm

My daughter who doesn't live with me is 22 she has just been given her own council place which she is moving into next week.... and as far as I am aware she is getting housing benefit...she does have a baby does that make a difference?

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 16 Jul 2013 18:54

sorry but i think its a good idea
mind my daughter didnt leave home till she was in her middle 20s
and son 30s :-D :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Jul 2013 18:51

I know this has been floated before but it seems to be surfacing again in the newspapers/online today.

What do you think?

At 18 your 'child' is an adult...you are no longer responsible for their behaviour ( eg they can get married, join up, drink, work ...etc and very difficult for some parents to 'tell another adult what to do' ) so do you think it is fair that if housing benefit is not available till age 25 then you are, in effect, given a straight choice..... you either

a) keep them in your house, whether you get on or not, and whether you can afford to or not.
b) sling them out and know they will be homeless, sleeping on friends sofa's or similar?

What happens to those coming out of care? Or those whose home situation is untenable ( for either party) due to abuse? or those who now have no room ( if the adult child has a child of their own...or indeed the parent has younger children who need seperate rooms) ?