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Well managed it apart from about 3 Terpsichore / melpomene / feeoffer never heard of them but you learn something new every day...that is if I can remember them! :-D

well thank you for that

my other half is French ; she demanded that I had a go as it was impossible.
to mark a successful recital I have been hit over the head with a 4in thick copy of Harrap's French/English.

merde

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Thanks Miss......*hmmph*....and rolls eyes ;-)

Interestingly if I had put them through my googlechrome spell check some of the right spellings would be different .

Not all correct I'm afraid girls :-(

Actually, I've just noticed that the second one has 2 correct ways of spelling.

You two may now check your dictionaries :-D

Any more punters?

Back out in the garden for a while, now I've had my cuppa. BBL :-)

:-( doh!

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Excellent Ann. I agree with you Rose about Anemone - so many people say Anenome. I always have to think about the correct spelling of Fuchsia. :-)

Here's a spelling test. Select the correct spelling of these five words:

Miniscule, minuscule, miniscool, minniscule

Rarefy, rarifie, rarify, rarefie

Innoculate, innocuelate, inocculate, inoculate

Supersede, supercede, superseed, superceed

Desicate, dessicate, dessiccate, desiccate

. . . and no cheating ;-)

Excellent , I read it out loud in front of the cat..... She was mesmerised.
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Excellent , I read it out loud in front of the cat..... She was mesmerised.
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Thanks for that Ann..........must print it out :-D

....and Terpsichore another muse. :-D


edit: I've had to look up feeoffer too :-S

One of the words that is often mispronounced , even by the people who should know it best, is anemone :-D

Ha - OH thought I was having a strange conversation on phone!!

Great poem but now feel the need to lie down :-)


Edit: Had to Google feoffer

"Melpomene initially the Muse of Singing, she then became the Muse of Tragedy, for which she is best known now"

One word had me confused as I had not heard or seen it before and can't find it in the dictionary ....melpomone. Anyone know the meaning?

I did have a go at reading it, no wonder people find our language so difficult to learn. You wonder how we ever learnt it. :-D

Excellent Ann :-)

Just seen this on FB. Thought it might amuse.

If you can pronounce correctly every word in this poem, you will be speaking English better than 90% of the native English speakers in the world.

After trying the verses, a Frenchman said he’d prefer six months of hard labour to reading six lines aloud.

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it’s written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation’s OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Fe0ffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation (think of Psyche!)
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won’t it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It’s a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough,
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!

English Pronunciation by G. Nolst Trenité