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Hi All, i am new to this and ive started building my family tree but ive only managed to go back 2 generations which i know all about anyway, i cant seem to find birth details before 1900, im a platinum member so what am i doing wrong?
Please help xx

Can't help with GR records as I don't use them, Freebmd.org.uk is good as it is very easy to use, have you found them on the 1911 census?

Hate to say this but this site may not have them!

give us one of your searches and let us help go back a bit more

Oh and welcome to the site

Karina, it may just be that you are putting too much detail in your search, eg a specific location, or date...as Kemp says put some details on here and we can check.

Karina, as you have this post also on Find Ancestors board, it may be as well to delete here and continue there, that prevents any one helping from duplicating info :-)

Hi and welcome
Im also on platinum so willing to help
:-D

These are free sites



http://www.freereg.org.uk/

https://familysearch.org/




Not sure why anyone would do 'platinum'?

thank you for the warm welcome xx
im looking for Augustas charles hall, born in 1884, died 22 april 1956
also his wife Alice Martha willoughby born in 1885, died aug 20th 1958, i just cant find Augustas birth, probably in the berkshire area?
Also a puzzle on my paternal side is Frank Bright born sept 1911, died 12 dec 1969 but i cant find his birth details, it makes sense with his marriage in later years in york that he was born in weardale?
I want to go further back than this and im really getting into it now!! so a kick start would help thank you for any help xx

Name: HALL, Augustus Charles
Registration district: Hungerford
County: Berkshire
Year of registration: 1907
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 2C
Page no: 560

Name: WILLOUGHBY, Alice Martha
Registration district: Hungerford
County: Berkshire
Year of registration: 1907
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 2C
Page no: 560

Is this them in 1911??

HALL, Augustus Head Married3 years M 26 1885 Gardener Labourer Berks Newbury VIEW
HALL, Alice Wife Married F 24 1887 Berks Kintbury VIEW
HALL, Reginald Son M 1 1910 Berks Kintbury VIEW

RG number: RG14
Piece: 6398
Reference: RG14PN6398 RG78PN312 RD115 SD1 ED4 SN33
Registration District: Hungerford
Sub District: Kintbury
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Kintbury West Woodhay
Address: High Street Kintbury
County: Berkshire

Original states 2 children born, both living

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
HALL Reginald George Hungerford 2c 257

I wonder who the other child is??

?????????

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
BRIGHT Frank Bright Weardale 10a 607

de_Jiminy_Le_Cricket Report 19 Sep 2012 22:14
Hi Gins, at £49.95 its was a tad cheaper than Ancestry.


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Hi lynski,
Yes that is their marriage june 1907, and yes thats them in 1911, gosh your good at this!! how do i go about finding their parents?
as for Frank Bright thats the one i found and his marriage to Esther watson makes sense because of the area they were living in when they married, i need to find his and her parents, would that be on an earlier census?

1901 Census Household RecordHousehold information
Address Village
Civil Parish Hamstead Marshall
Rural District Newbury
Town or Village or Hamlet Hamstead Marshall
Ecclesiastical Parish St Mary
Parliamentary Borough or Division Southern Or Newbury Division
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Berkshire

Householder 1
Name Augustus Hall
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 16
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation General Labour
Employment Status
Where Born Berks Hamstead M
Language
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name George Hall
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 63
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation General Labour
Employment Status
Where Born Berks Hamstead M
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name Louisa Hall
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 54
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Guernsey Channel Islands
Language
Infirmity

Householder 4
Name Sidney Hall
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Berks Hamstead M
Language
Infirmity

1891 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Holt Wood, Hamstead Road
Parish Hampstead Marshall
District Newbury, Newbury
Administrative County Berkshire

Householder 1
Name George Hall
Age 53
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation 1 22 Army Pensioner
Birth Place Kintbury
Birth County Berkshire

Householder 2
Name Louisa Hall
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Ireland
Birth County Guernsey

Householder 3
Name Maud Hall
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Newbury
Birth County Berkshire

Householder 4
Name Augustus Hall
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1885
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Hampstead Marshall
Birth County Berkshire

Householder 5
Name Sidney Hall
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1890
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Hampstead Marshall
Birth County Berkshire

your amazing at this!! what am i doing wrong??

Thank you lynski and polly poppet xx
I must go to bed now i have babies that will wake me early! if you have any more info on Frank Bright or you can tell me how you got this fantastic info that would be great, Goodnight and thanks once again xx

A search at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl gets:

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
BRIGHT Frank Bright Weardale 10a 607

Now when the mum's MS=Maiden Surname matches the child's surname, it's most likely an illegitimate birth.
(Abt 1% of time married parents did wed a spouse with the same surname - usually because they were 1st cousins and their fathers were brothers.)
So the first thing to do is click on the page # link ("607" here) to see if the father's name is in the index too.
However, there's no other Frank's named on p 607.

One can also click on the "Weardale" link then the more info "here" link to see a list of the villages, etc., covered by Weardale RD. One also sees:
WEARDALE REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Sub-districts : St. John, Stanhope, Wolsingham
Registers now held by : County of Durham district.

Stanhope subdistrict covered the civil parishes of Hunstanworth, Edmondbyers, and parts of Stanhope and Stanhope Urban

To determine Frank's mum, I think you're going to have to buy his b.cert.
I would get this via: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Now the GRO's not the only place you can buy BMDs - you can also buy them from the local office that now holds the Weardale regos - in this case the County of Durham rego office.
Why I mention this is that some local offices have their own index online, and these indexes don't have identical info to the GRO index. For what's online, see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

In particular: http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/

Now a look up of Frank gets:
Surname: BRIGHT
Forename: Frank
Year: 1911
District: Durham Western
and clicking on the postal application form reveals:
Register No. - Entry No. - District
STAN/25 - 130 - Durham Western (1911)

So now we know Frank's birth was rego'ed in the Stanhope subdistrict.

Now GR has 31 Bright's living in Weardale in 1911 (plus a couple of others born there).
However, even if I were to limit myself to females living in Stanhope subdistrict 3-6 m before Frank's birth, there's still multiple choices for possible mothers of Frank.

This looks like the other child of Augustus and Alice in the 1911 census?? -

WILLOUGHBY, William Head Married28 years M 55 1856 Farm Labourer Kintbury Hungerford Berks VIEW
WILLOUGHBY, Emily Wife F 53 1858 Boxford Murby Berks VIEW
HALL, Vera Emily Granddaughter F 3 1908 Kintby Hungerford Berks VIEW

RG number: RG14
Piece: 6398
Reference: RG14PN6398 RG78PN312 RD115 SD1 ED4 SN32
Registration District: Hungerford
Sub District: Kintbury
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Kintbury West Woodhay
Address: High Street Kintbury
County: Berkshire


Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Hall Vera Emily Hungerford 2c 263

1901 census -

WILLOUGHBY, William Head Married M 44 1857 Labourer General Kintbury, Berkshire VIEW
WILLOUGHBY, Emily Wife Married F 42 1859 Boxford, Berkshire VIEW
WILLOUGHBY, William C Son Single M 18 1883 Baker Kintbury, Berkshire VIEW
WILLOUGHBY, Gertrude Daughter F 8 1893 Scholar Kintbury, Berkshire VIEW

Piece: 1124
Folio: 23
Page: 11
Registration District: Hungerford
Civil Parish: Kintbury
Municipal Borough:
Address: Laurel Cottage, Kintbury, Village
County: Berkshire

1891 census (wrongly transcribed?)

WILCOMBE, William Head Married M 36 1855 Farm Labourer Kintbury, Berkshire VIEW
WILCOMBE, Emily Wife Married F 34 1857 Boxford, Berkshire VIEW
WILCOMBE, William Son M 8 1883 Scholar Kintbury, Berkshire VIEW
WILCOMBE, Allice Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Kintbury, Berkshire VIEW

Piece: 971
Folio: 19
Page: 2
Registration District: Hungerford
Civil Parish: Kintbury
Municipal Borough:
Address: High Street, Kintbury
County: Berkshire

Surname on original looks more like WILLOWBE
I have put in a request to change it so will wait and see what happens?

EDIT - FMP have accepted the change in surname.

????????
Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
Willoughby William Daniel Hungerford 2c 255

Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
Willoughby Alice Martha Hungerford 2c 254