General Chat

What exactly is speeding?

merely going faster than someone has decreed...

Agree with Stray.

Safety cameras in England and Wales are run by local partnerships. These partnerships are usually made up of the local authority, the police and the courts.

The police may use cameras to enforce speed limits. In this case the rules about cameras being visible do not apply

Roy

AnnCardiff.
I agree whole heartedly about mobile phone users , imho there is no excuse for that.
Stray.
I don't drive on motorways so don't speed on them. most of my driving is early morning and early evening, not much traffic about so no need to speed. however I have been caught speeding when we had a Skyline, now we have a Smart car.

i dont drive, so therefore i dont speed! :-)

are you all aware that unmarked private cars are used by City Councils to catch motorists who drop cigarette ends out of their cars incurring a fine of £75 which could rise to £2,500 if not paid within fourteen days!!!

now that is wht I call sneaky and underhand!!! - pity they don't do it for mobile phone users and people who spit chewing gum out instead

We all know the speed restrictions on motorways, but when we travel south eastwards on the M20 towards ports, you feel you must be going backwards at times, as vehicles race for Tunnel trains or Channel ferries.

Could do with a few detectors there of whatever sort.

Gwyn

I dont believe Stray, or ZZzz

Every body MUST have exceeded a speed limit at one point in their driving lives..........

If you keep your eyes on the speedo all of the time..........then, to MY mind.......you are dangerous........

Bob ;-)

I think ( I maybe wrong) Different rules for mobile and fixed cameras.

Fixed ones have to have a warning but not mobile ones

Ive seen em parked up on motorway bridges pointing it down the road through the side window........

Dont know if the law to the use has changed, BUT it used to be in the sequence of,

the officer had to spot and assess a vehicles speed by eye , and then view the vehicle though the speed camera device, obtaing a speed reading.

they were NOT allowed to point the device down the road and wait for a car to come into its range first

they had to be on a straight part of the road, and not hiding round a bend,

as I said I dont know if the rules HAVE changed but it seems to be a case of THEIR word is more believeable than the motorists..

after all the speedo in MY car tells me what my car is doing, i cant see the speedo in theirs.......the speedo in private cars is not part of a MOT test, so its accuracy cant be guaranteed , although a working sat navs speed readout,(I was assured by Tom Tom)is 100% accurate, in a straight linemy speedo is about 1 1/2 Mph optimistic at indicated 40Mph, and gets more so the faster i go

depends so much on tyre pressures and tyre wear. (smaller by maybe 1/4 inch diameter) makes the car think its going faster than it actually is........

I suspect that car makers design them this way, so that they cant be sued for supplying an innaccurate speedo ,causing motorists to drive to into a speeding charge


Bob

Sadly as Porkie Pie says, you do not actually need to be speeding for the readings on hand held devices to be inaccurate.

I try not to speed but on a clear road it is easy to slip over without realising, and I am sure that many of us have done that in the past.

But the ones I object to are not those being used by the police but the ones which are used by members of the public.

It is legal but open to be challanged in court,

because if the device is not supported it can give a false reading

slight movement by the user would not give an acurate reading,

Roy

Yes Stray, I don't speed either :-D

people shouldnt need warning, they shouldnt be speeding in the first place

as speeding is against the law :-D

On the M4 today a police car was parked in the "for police only" bay, there was a policeman/woman in drivers seat pointing a speed gun down the road, now what I would like to know is, is it legal cos I think they have to be outside the car and warnings put up so you get a chance to slow down.