General Chat

My grandmother (who died in 1968) maintained that Captain Smith of the Titanic was her uncle. I regret not asking her more about that, as now I have investigated our family history and the captain's and have not found any common ground. The captain's line died with his daughter's death in 1973, her two children having died childless, earlier.

Wendy have re read that posting - badly put - have amended it!!!! Can see where I caused confusion! Put it down to age!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was trying to say that Ismay interfered so much that Capt. Smith was not in absolute control as he should have been - being the Master.

. . . . . but was Captain Edward John Smith the Master on that ship, Chris?

Island as I said when I posted this thread - the commercial side of it. McB one of my OH's close relatives died there also.

Edward John Smith captain of said ship was one of my OH's ancestors.

I thought you were fed up of hearing about the Titanic etc Chris? :-S

As I understand it Bob - the rivets were at that time, up to spec., however in this day and age they would not be. Some 'popped' and the bulkheads did not fill in the sequence as they thought when designing the ship.. Plus Lord Ismay - less interference from him would have perhaps noted the iceberg warnings, stayed clear and perhaps dropped speed.

As it was, a tragic accident waiting to happen. All those lives.

Captain Smith was Master of that ship and as such his word should have been law but Ismay interfered non-stop and hindered his seamanship.

from substandard rivets,(allegedly) to next to useless water bulkheads.

it was, I gather, a rather large series of circumstances coming together to cause a tragedy,

Bob

Not in West End Ann - took g.dau to the Maritme Museum in Southampton some years ago.

I became interested in Titanic some 25 years ago as a result of family tree.

I can understand an interest in the Titanic for historical reasons. Have you been to the little museum at West End Chris? It had a lot on the Titanic when we went there and it is a wonderful little free museum.
What I can't stand is the glamorizing, surmising what happened for the purpose of making money.

Personally Merlin I have always blamed Ismay who kept over-ruling the Captain, demanding speed and ignoring the warnings coming through. Another contributory fact perhaps was that the Wireless Operators who were under pressure to send the numerous telegraphs to N. York. by the 1st class passengers and again ignored to some extent warnings.

I object strongly to the remark made by George but like Julia have no wish to end up with a ban.

i like to watch some things about the titanic, and i did enjoy the film, altho not the actor in it :-| cant watch it now sadly as the song makes me cry,

the queens what????? cant stand the royals, :-S

as for the olympics, what a massive waste of money, :-0

:-D but i do love my country lol

Yes...it was the first class that sailed out on half filled life boats which is totally heartbreaking...and wrong...but it's a social record of how things were at the time...and that's what i find so interesting ...as someone who is very interested in history of all kinds but most especially the people aspects of it x

Goeorge, Bad Design in building and Incompetance..by the officers who wanted to make a record crossing on its first journey. :-S

Muffy were you aware that the 3rd class exits to safety were locked and only when it was virtually too late did they manage to break through?

That when the incident occurred that the main italian kitchen staff were thought to be so excitable that they too were locked in and I believe mostly if not all died?

That in one of the first boats to get away a 1st class passenger managed to get not only her ladies maid, but her luggage and her dog and I am relying from memory less than 12 in the boat.

I could go on but I must stop. Those of you who wish to view the true story ignore the last Titanic film circa 1997 and look at 'A Night to Remember' - that is as close to the truth as you will get.

Oooh, No, I daren't, Island, it would cause a crisis.LOLOL

Julia in Derbyshire

Many years ago when my grandmother died, we were living abroad and, on our return, we helped to sift through all the stuff from her house that my uncle had put in a shed. I was astonished and mesmerised to find the newspaper from 1912 the day after Titanic sank. It made great reading and a great impression on me. My much older cousin took all the interesting stuff, then he married, then he divorced, then he died young. So I never saw it again but I do wish I hadn't been so well-behaved and had "borrowed" that paper.

you can tell me Julia :-D

I've got a good answer to that one George, but I could not stand the riots that would ensue on here if I put it up, and I am not on for a life long ban LOLOL

Julia in Derbyshire

The Titanic,

A wonderful example of British BAD shipbuilding.

George :-)