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Debate... relocating the jobless

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AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 29 Jun 2010 22:11

Speaking as one who has moved around with OH to areas where he was able to get a better paid job. If the jobs are there, and the accommodation is there I think some people would accept it. Despite what we might think there are people out of work who would do anything to get back into the workforce. I guess it all depends on the availability of housing, first and foremost people have to have somewhere to live. And, as somebody has said, where are all the council houses waiting empty for people? Unless the government intends councils to get housing associations to set aside a certain number for people on the move.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 29 Jun 2010 21:48



what a load of,!!!,,,,,,,,,there is too much about it that wont work,

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 29 Jun 2010 21:46

I suppose it depends on what we are talking about in respect of manufacturing. The niche market for electronics has been cornered by cheap labour from the far east, and the money they have invested in development of their goods has pretty much paid off for them.

But there is enormous potential in the UK still. We are still leaders in things like Nucleur technology and like it or not, that's going to play a major role in years to come with the fossil fuels running out.

I note that this is just an incentive scheme, yet people immediately jump to the erroneous conclusion that it will be forced. That's not the case. Continuous welfare support has to be tackled and that means more taxes - it's a well worn but true cliche that a country can't tax it's way to prosperity, so any ideas are worth considering.

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 29 Jun 2010 21:39

In theory it sounds good however the influx of the newly employed are to be pushed to the top of the council waiting lists for housing. If there is not enough housing now how is there going to be with an influx of people moving to a new area.

Also what about the unemployed in the area with jobs an influx would increase the competition and so reduce their chances of getting back to work.
Also a one parent family could not take advantage unless childcare is provided as they may already rely on the support of the family in the area they are moving from.

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2010 21:37

Interesting point Eldrick
" anything that helps push us back towards a manufacturing economy can't be a bad thing".

Do you think Britain can realistically do that now that cheap imports are the norm? Would 'we' pay more to 'Buy British' ( remember that marketing campaign? ) or do we just want the best price irrespective of whether it could be manufactured here or not?

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 29 Jun 2010 21:33

People who live in council houses have always had the option for a transfer. It's even easier now - council tenants can swap with housing association tenants as well.
HOWEVER - where are all these areas with copious amounts of employment?
Who will move from an area where they may have lived all their lives to an area wih high unemployment? Transfers work both ways - or does Ian Duncan-Smith expect pensioners to swap?

If someone has been unemployed for a long time - how are they expected to be able to afford to travel to the new area to see the house - or is it a case of 'it doesn't matter they're unemployed'?
IF they choose to move - how will they pay for it? I didn't hear IDS mention that? If he did - I bet it wouldn't cover the whole cost.

If we're talking about families - whose job would be the more important - the woman's or the man's. Perhaps a woman has a part-time job - the husband doesn't have a job - should the woman be forced to give up her job?
When we talk of single parents - if they are forced to move, they may move away from friends and family - childcare and general support - who would look after the children?

It's yet another load of unthought out tosh spouted from the mouth of someone who's never lived in the real world

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 29 Jun 2010 21:32

Interesting, but not a new concept. It's been done many times throughout history and particularly during the 1700's and early 1800's. I don't see it as a bad scheme at all. After all, we all know people who have relocated for work and if an incentive were offered, it would encourage it perhaps.

The downside, I suppose, could be a depopulation of some areas to the detriment of others. The south would probably bear the brunt of it and it's doubtful if the infrastructure exists to support a large scale migration.

It's probably unfair to restrict it to people in council homes, though. It should be available to all.

Whatever, anything that helps push us back towards a manufacturing economy can't be a bad thing.

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 29 Jun 2010 21:25

i wouldnt move no, i was brought up ont his estate know the gud and bad, and love my area x

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2010 21:23

Do you think this is 'tinkering at the edges'? should it only be used as a carrot and not a stick? if people refuse a viable offer of work elsewhere should they be 'made' to move?

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2010 21:20

"Unemployed people living in council homes could be offered incentives to move to areas where there are jobs, the work and pensions secretary has said."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10426714.stm

What does everyone think? Would you wish or be willing to move away from your 'home area', friends , extended family?

Should this be extended to help people in private rental, or their own homes with 'removal costs for example?