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Just came across this Chaffey.1841 census - household transcription, just searching on first name brother. There are a few others as well using as christian name.

Curious regarding Satnav's post, never heard of it as a first name!

Person: CHAFFEY, Brother
Address: Queen's Head Court, St Thomas, Bristol

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Name Sex Age Birth
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CHAFFEY, Brother M 65 1776 Somerset VIEW
CHAFFEY, Ann F 50 1791 Somerset VIEW
CHAFFEY, Susan F 15 1826 Somerset VIEW

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Queen's Head Court, St Thomas, Bristol County:
Gloucestershire



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Well, Hardwicke's marriage act did not come into force until 1753 ... so if they were members of another church they could have married there.

"In 1753, Hardwicke, then Lord Chancellor promoted a bill that required all marriages to be conducted in a Church of England Parish Church and that banns should be called for three consecutive Sundays in that Church prior to the marriage. The only exceptions were Jews and Quakers who were permitted to conduct their own valid marriage services. Other groups, including Roman Catholics and Dissenters were required to marry in the Church of England though of course many then went to their own churches for a second cremony..."

Jill

Could it have been his given name?
births
Brother John Davies 1856 Jan-Feb-Mar Cheshire, Lancashire
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Brother Herbert Hughes 1888 Apr-May-Jun Durham, Tyne and Wear
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Brother Jesse Lammas 1848 Oct-Nov-Dec London, Middlesex
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Brother Lammas 1851 Apr-May-Jun Greater London, London, Surrey
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Brother Hiram Large 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec London, Middlesex

Wesleyan's and some of the offshoots of Methodist, (Bible Christians, for instance) would refer to each other as *brother* and *sister* and were from that area. The ubiquitous Samuel Wilberforce was particularly vicious about them and wanted employers to sack them... yes, let them all starve to death. They may well have needed to marry in a *proper* church to make it all legal, as their own churches were more or less driven underground.

To me, that is the logical suggestion. Oh... and Bible Christians accepted women as ministers all those years ago, lolol

I have much dislike of the Wilberforce family hypocracy (sp)

Love

Daff xxxx

Might he have been a Quaker?

well as its Plymouth then the Plymouth Brethren sect comes to mind

EDIT looks too early for the Brethren as found this

Fundamentalist Christian Protestant sect characterized by extreme simplicity of belief, founded in Dublin in about 1827>>>>>> by the Reverend John Nelson Darby (1800–1882). The Plymouth Brethren have no ordained priesthood, affirming the ministry of all believers, and maintain no church buildings. They hold prayer meetings and Bible study in members' houses.

An assembly of Brethren was held in Plymouth in 1831 to celebrate the sect's arrival in England, but by 1848 the movement had split into ‘Open’ and ‘Closed’ Brethren. The latter refuse communion with those not of their persuasion. A further subset of the Closed Brethren is the ‘Exclusive’ Brethren, who have strict rules regarding dress and conduct.

In the UK, the Plymouth Brethren are mainly found in the fishing villages of northeast Scotland. There are some 65,000 in the USA, divided into eight separate groups. Worldwide membership is about 1.5 million (1993), including members in the Caribbean, India, and


Unlikey too they would marry in Cof E Church

A member of a religous group, fraternity etc according to Wiki. I know the local monastry near me has "brothers"

Annx

Hoping someone might be able to help.
On 6 April 1740 Brother John Chaffey married Mary James at Charles Church (Cof E) Plymouth.
They had children baptised at St. Andrews, Plymouth (C of E) in 1748, 1750, 1752 and 1755. For the 1748 and 1752 entries John was again described as Brother John.
Does anyone know the meaning of the term "Brother" in this context? I'm very puzzled and would love to know the answer.