General Chat

I have just read this thread through and I agree with Clairejo. I don't see any Cyber Bullying. What I do see is two people with different opinions which they have every right to have. Janey has every right to her opinion the same as Elizabeth has....Its a Debate thread and as with all debates people will disagree. xx

clairejo -- seems simple enough, doesn't it?!

But nothing hereabouts is simple ever.

Transparent, yes.

Elizabeth, this is a website which we all pay to post on.
Everyone is entitled to their views and to air them, it is called a democracy.
Janey is as entitled to post on this thread as you or I. She has her opinion, you yours.
I am sorry but unless you have been targeted by private messages then you cannot call this disagreement cyber bulling.
This is all a bit over the top in my opinion, why can't you just agree to disagree?

I know sufficient to appreciate that Scotland has a different legal system and it is far warmer where I live - thank god.

As far as the rest goes I don't have the faintest idea what you are going on about. Nore to I care.

There is no need to constantly pick a fight - cyberbullying is also recognised. I am glad that the administrator has a copy :0)

Stop now.

Janey

I want to reassure you that if the triplet utters an inappropriate word or phrase I will interrogate until I discover where it was heard. I will then take appropriate action if that person is an adult.

The triplet will then be subject to a dscussion about the modern day usage of said word or phrase, I will then verbally abuse the triplet thus ensuring that remark is never overhead in the school environment and their education record will not be blemished :-))

I hope that meets with your approval - don't answer that...lol

Sue

Lol - I hope it hasn't got coke in it - one is plenty!

Janey:
Adults can have a grown up discussion. If you don't like discussing items relating to people - why did you look at this thread?

I am experienced in dealing with bullying in my profession -I actively tackle problems every week - it isn't just words - I am someone who takes the time to resolve issues and doesn't just sit back and talk. I understand the the 'cause and effect' of bullying - not only for the bully but for the victim of bullying. /my experience shows that without an appeal system or agreement to remove a name from the register after their behavior has changed - it will fail.

There are actions and charges that can be used but clearly you don't live in the UK or you have no knowledge of them.

Wend: Diet coke is fine for my children - its the orginal version that causes someone to be hypo!

Rambling Rose - your absolutely right, but this is where the pit falls lie.

So much easier, and ever so much more fun, to discuss persons than ideas, ain't it?

Easier and more fun for some I guess, anyhow.

I really am wondering about Elizabeth not seeing the irony that is just dripping from her own words and deeds in this thread, though.

Wend listening now, youtube was slow to load so went 'direct'... :) http://ow.ly/1eicR

edit Sorry Wend , left the 'e' out!

Sick is now good :-)))

Vomit is still bad :-((

Sue xx

Yes I know that Elizabeth, I think though that when the use of a word is altered, that alteration must be taken into account

ie when i was a child 'gay' meant happy
then it became another word for homosexual
now it seems to be ( amongst the young anyway) more of a 'random insult' like 'prat' ...

similarly the word which David Cameron used re 'twitter' has a different meaning to my generation than it does to the youngsters....( and in other parts of the country)

I think (lol) the point I was trying to make was that words in themselves mean very little it is the 'intent' behind them. I am reliably informed that the word 'sick' now no longer means what it always did... I know 'wicked' doesn't lol.

Rambling Rose - A person can be charged with homophobia or racism etc - even if the person on the recieving end isn't gay, or from the country implied. It stems from the persons intention to cause another person some harm - verbally or otherwise to insult their race or sexuality.

In the same light - a person can be a homophobic bully if they .....ditto

The register would not be so bad if appeals were considered and only true cases of bullying were recorded.

They have said that records will be kept until the end of Secondary School - if a child displays inappropriate behaviour at the age of 5.

If they have to be introduced - there should be a time limit. When the child has demonstrated that their behaviour has changed after 'x' number of weeks - they should be give a chance to move on. Otherwise there is no incentive for them to stop bullying.

We shouldn't judge (very) small children's comments through the eyes of an adult.
Their comments are usually innocent - an honest comment on a 'difference'.
Racial/sexual/sizeist abuse is when that 'difference' becomes a reason for continual comment, or comment by an adult who should know better!

And now if I can just get an explanation of this ....

"Janey is welcome to take part but no offensive language please, in case it offends"

and of why I would not find that offensive .....................

Very Humble Opinion

Whats VHO?

im lost now, sits with Elizabeth in wonder ;))))))))))

Lol - everyone is entitled to their opionion (can't spell that one) but so long as they can justify their reasons. It should be an open debate - and Janey is welcome to take part but no offensive language please, in case it offends. The last comment is purely looking at it from an Economic view point.

I expect it was time for bed :0)

ok - I give up what are the intials for?

No Rose, I won't if you won't...lol

xx