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"We only take what we're entitled to ..........” (Taken from an earlier posting.)
Are you sure they are not MPs?
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DISGUSTING! Obviously the father's bad back doesn't stop him from procreating.
I totally agree it is everyones right to have as many children as they like, BUT so long as they go to work and support them, otherwise No it is not their right. So I say to these parents GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDES AND STOP SPONGING OFF THE REST OF US. PARASITES!!
Ooh now I feel better! lol
Lainey
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I have chronic pain 24/7 and cannot play with my grandson. If his pain is soooo bad, how can he play with his children, I cannot even bend over, let alone get on the ground.
So Yess I do Understand and very well.
Gail
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I won't comment on the moral rights and wrongs of their situation but I will comment on the replies regarding his back problem.
Unless you have arthritis in your back you will not understand the problems, the pain and what can and can't be done so to criticise him for being able to play with children and hold them but not work is unfair. He is also very young to have such a chronic and at times disabling condition.
I would far rather see 8 children brought into a family supported by benefits that are loved, cared for and wanted than see those in other families who are not loved and cared for or who are abused in some way but are part of 'the normal' family.
Jacky
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Im thinking that maybe this women needs some sort of pysological assesment if she only has kids because she likes to feel pregnant,,
clairejo..sending you a hug,,
Liz,,how are ya love?
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We have just watched an item on our 6 pm news
................. a Honduran man in Canada illegally, admits he was once a drug dealer but has now reformed, and is appealing a decision to deport him immediately back to Honduras because he has to support his wife and 10 children, with another one on the way.
He is apparently 28, and they have apparently been married for 10 years.
He came here illegally in the first place, was deported a few days after they married, but made his way back to Canada within 6 months, again entering illegally. He was supposed to go to Ottawa (from Vancouver) before last December for something to do with getting his Honduran passport ....................... his wife said they couldn't afford the fare because he couldn't go alone. Not sure if this meant all 12 of them wanted to go! True enough, the plane fare would be around £500 per adult.
Because he did not go to Ottawa and get the passport, the Canadian government says the case has been closed, and he therefore has to leave the country at once.
Cases that have got this far have already gone on for years ........ possibly since soon after his second arrival here.
Now they have gone public in an attempt to force the govenrment's hands ..... saying they now want time so they can go to Ottawa!
I'm sorry but I have no patience with this guy, or his wife!
Except that the wife and 10 (soon to be 11) kids will remain in Canada, and guess who will get to support them?!
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What's up Claire, you ok?
pm if you like - I am around for another half an hour.
Lizx
Gail, that's what I wonder, his back is obviously ok in certain positions lol, I can't believe they would get ivf treatment lol
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The mind boggles, I wonder how he manages to produce these children with such a bad back then. IVF??? Sorry so much going through my mind on this one.
Gail
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Gail, only for short periods apparently, she between pregnancies, and he apparently 'trained as an auxiliary nurse but stopped when the first child was six months old because of a bad back and shortly after was diagnosed with chronic arthritis and not worked since.' Hasn't held him back from producing so many children tho, wonder how his back holds up lol
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Hi Liz, have either of these people ever worked in their very short lives??? Does not appear so.
There are reason why people need to go on benefits at times and they are entitled. I was on benefits when I went back to study and then looking for work, it was for something positive. Disability is another reason (though I cannot get it as OH works). But we have worked and payed tax through out our lives.
But to have never worked and expect to be entitled is just not on.
Gail
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Hi Gail, hope you are feeling better.
Hi Claire, and Clairejo, you are up late, or early.
I have no objection to people being on benefits for various reasons, I had to do that myself for a while, but to go on having children for the sake of being pregnant etc, it absolutely ridiculous. The father of these children used to play out on the park near my home, and many times when I was about there I would warn him not to swing on the moveable goalposts, he did it once too often and broke his wrist and claimed and got around £1000 from the council and they took the posts away, so depriving all the other kids. Then he was boasting about the toys he had bought with the money, he was still at middle school at the time so under 12!
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What can anyone say to this. APPALLING!
It happens here as well, the parents do not work, they feel it is their right not to work and sponge of our hard earned taxes. The tax my OH pays is keeping families like this.
If the parents do not work the children will grow up thinking this is normal and do the same thing.
Gail
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These parasites make me really sick,
Our taxes are paying for all of this,
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This was in my local newspaper, or will be tonight, with a picture of the whole lot, including dad with the bad back holding a toddler:
Meet the 24-year-old with seven children
Forget 2.4 children - one Norwich mum has had seven by the age of 24 and says she now wants number eight.
When Susie C. fell pregnant at 15 she shocked her family by announcing she wanted another seven children.
True to her word, Susie has either given birth or been pregnant every year since, and she and her husband Dax, 25, are planning on having an eighth baby in two years.
Neither of them has a job, and the pair, from near Gas Hill, receive £24,000 a year in benefits to support their brood of seven.
Mrs C. said: “I like being pregnant, and I like having babies. Being part of a big family is fun, and it makes me feel needed and loved. I love watching their little personalities develop, and each milestone is special.”
But she conceded: “It's a struggle. I have a lot of help from both our families. Some of my friends think it's daunting having so much responsibility, but I'm not interested in going out and getting drunk; I just love being a wife and mother.”
She added: “I do want my kids to work and hope they all have interesting and rewarding careers. If one of them became a parent at 16, I couldn't complain because I did it and I'm happy. Dax joked that if our seven kids had seven kids of their own, he'd be a granddad to 49!
“Everyone has the right to a big family, and I shouldn't be criticised for being on benefits. I don't have time to work and I can't leave Dax.
“We only take what we're entitled to and we'll stop at eight. Being a wife and mum is the most important job in the world.”
The couple, pictured right, receive £500 a week made up of child tax credits and child benefit. They pay £15 a month towards the rent of their home, which has four double bedrooms and a garden.
Their children - Hope, eight, Neisha, seven, Ethan, six, Neo, five, Rhiver, three, Marli, one, and Taio-Ashar, six months - were all planned.
Hope, Neisha, Ethan and Neo are all at school, and Rhiver attends a free pre-school every weekday morning. Mrs C. said: “It's not all stress - a lot of it's fun. I only have two babies at home and the rest are at school or pre-school.”
Her dad looked after Hope while she sat her exams. She passed a handful of GCSEs at grade C and D, but just four months after having Hope she fell pregnant with Neisha.
Mrs C., who married Dax four years ago, said: “We were delighted and didn't want to stop trying for babies until we'd reached our goal of having eight. Our families weren't disappointed: they were very supportive.
“We wanted to have children young so we could have a closer bond with them.
“When they are having teenage problems we'll be able to talk openly and honestly about them because we were that age not
long ago. Having the children so close together means they are great friends, and I would love them to always be close.”
She passed an A-level in childcare with an A grade after studying part-time while pregnant with Neisha, and, between subsequent pregnancies, she worked in a leisure centre and as a special needs teaching assistant for nine months.
Mr C.had trained to be an auxiliary nurse after school but stopped when Hope was six months old because of a bad back.
Shortly afterwards, he was diagnosed with chronic arthritis and has not worked since.
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This makes me so angry, I know this boy, his mother was on benefits for a while when she moved to my area with her son and older daughter and her husband was imprisoned for hitting her. She had a wealthy family behind her, in business, and yet lived in a rent free house until she started working part time when the children got older, then she got together with a wealthy man and moved out of the city.
I saw her recently and she was boasting about all her grandchildren, she is a lot younger than me as had her kids young. Her daughter is a career girl and doesn't seem to want to settle down or have kids, but her son is certainly making up for it. Can't understand how his arthritis is bad enough to stop him working yet he can manage to father and play with all these kids, and they want another!
Am I unfair in my thinking? The mother of the children says it is everyone's right to have the family they want! She got pregnant at 15 but obviously Dax didn't get into trouble over it, time the police got tough with youngsters getting pregnant when not of age.
Lizx
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