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JAMIE OLIVER`S 3RD DAUGHTER IS CALLED---

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CATHKIN

CATHKIN Report 12 Apr 2009 19:20

nothing , but Liz said it would be nice if they had boys next but if they have problems --. If you read the thread right thru you will see it makes sense

R.B.

R.B. Report 12 Apr 2009 11:42

Whats fertility treatment got to do with naming a child?

Claire in Lincs

Claire in Lincs Report 12 Apr 2009 11:30

Poor litttle soul

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 12 Apr 2009 02:06

Hi Liz.
Grandson has the option of being called Guy and, he has a very simple one syllable middle name (after his dad) his sister also has two 'old' 2nd and 3rd names - her g grandmother's name on my ex's name, and my middle name (also her gg grandmother's name) to choose from - but she's known in the family as....Sprout!! LOL
However - as the situation at the time sort of demanded, grand daughter has a double barelled name - and when my daughter marries - (her partner - who isn't her father - wants to adopt her) may have a triple barelled surname!!! At least in the future genealogists will be able to work out her parentage!! LOL

Forgot to mention in my last thread that both my daughters have 3 letter 'unisex' names in case they didn't like their 'unusual' forenames - but neither chose to use them.
In fact eldest daughter is proud of the origin of her name - my dad was of the Islamic faith. She has read the book about Leila Khaled and has nothing but admiration for her - she followed true Islam - didn't hurt a soul!

.......and apart from my mother - in my family no-one calls me by my 'proper' name - or maggie either!! LOL

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 12 Apr 2009 01:55

Hi Maggie, and all,

I have a problem with the current trend of names like Alfie, and Archie and such, even Jamie, as I think they are lovely as family names and 'nicknames' but at some stage of life that person might prefer a more dignified name so Alfred, Arthur, James etc and they can chose whether they use the shortened versions. I also prefer names that don't 'date' a child, so all the Kylie's from when Neighbours was first on the screens and since and similar names copied from film or pop stars or tv stars/ characters will give a child's age away later on.

I chose a name not dissimilar to your Grandson's for my lad, who was not born on November 5th, but gave him a family name too, Samuel, so that if he didn't like the first short Christian name - we have a long surname - he could use Samuel or Sam. I read something a while back saying that if you have a long double or more syllabled surname a short one syllable Christian name is better used, and vice versa. Also names that don't twist the tongue, my o.h. has names that both have 'th' at the end. His own son hates the Christian name he has, a well known bowlegged cowboy's surname lol, especially with the 'middle' name he has (named after his father so the double th again lol, and therefore has taken to introducing himself as Sid! His partner has to think twice when we talk about him using his given name as she knows him as Sid too.
Another important thing to look at is the initials, kids can be teased if their initials spell something like FAT for example. It's such a big responsibility choosing a name for a baby, that will fit them and sound right throughout their lives.

Lizx (my choice over Elizabeth, and my parents had no idea about the short -long combination as with that long Christian name I have a double syllabled surname too!)

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 12 Apr 2009 01:21

I have altered this thread as I don't like displaying my family's names.
My eldest is called Leila (that's ei as in eight and weigh - not 'ie' as in field) - after the wonderful Palestinian 'terrorist' who did nothing but blow up a plane - after removing the passengers.
My grand daughter is called a generic name for flowers - she was going to be called Poppy - but Jamie Oliver called his daughter Poppy! Daughter went through all the flower names and I jokingly said cut the cr*p and call something that covers all flowers - which she did!
I did point out to daughter that this was an affectionate name I used for her dog. but the dye was cast! (BTW, there's a very middle class boy called Axle in her class!!!) !
Grandson has a very old name - but is actually a family name , his grandfather , g grandfather and gg grandfather has/have had it - in fact prior to that it was part of the double-barelling of the surname - it's Latin - so hardly 'new', but apparently, even a doctor, (who should know Latin) couldn't pronounce it!!!
So how odd are 'new' names when ancient names are considered 'odd' and apparently unpronouncable?

Lindy

Lindy Report 11 Apr 2009 19:57

I suppose that I will get a bit of flack by this post but so be it..

Why do parents give their children names that are going to give them grief during their school years?. Surely going to school and trying to fit in is difficult enough without having a name that is going to cause them to be teased and make them feel unhappy...

I for one know what I am talking about, my school years were a nightmare because my name was thought to be masculine. My sister hated her names so much that when she turned 21 had them legally changed. I could never do that as it would be an offence to my parents. Our brothers got normal names like Patrick and George.


After all the ridicule and suffering at school, more me, then my sister as her name were not as bad. My sister went and named her daughters, Storm and Skye, and then added another two family names each to boost. One from the English side of the family and one from the Afrikaanse side. I really thought that she would have learned something from her own experience.

Personally I think that the names Petal Blossom Rainbow are ridiculous but as someone rightly pointed out it is none of our our "beeswax" "que sera sera"

Lindy ;))))))))))

Teddys Girl

Teddys Girl Report 11 Apr 2009 12:29

I have just found on the 1891 census two daughters of one of my ancestors born in the late 1800's one was called Mercy, and the other Martyr.
Needless to say their father was a Clergyman.

Mo

Meriwether

Meriwether Report 7 Apr 2009 05:01

I saw it, Purple, and thought that her teachers will have no problem getting her name right:

'Yes, you, missy, the third girl from the right, second to back row...'

Well, I ask you. It's what I called my daughter before we had decided upon a name for her!

A x

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 7 Apr 2009 04:48

Ros, I think she might have.

Did you see my thread about Gareth Gates, his new baby daughter is called Missy!

xx

CATHKIN

CATHKIN Report 6 Apr 2009 22:48

THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO PURPLE SAYING IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A COUPLE OF BOYS

MrDaff

MrDaff Report 6 Apr 2009 22:37

Does it matter Ros? I don't actually think it does!!

CATHKIN

CATHKIN Report 5 Apr 2009 15:23

did Jools not have fertility treatment for the 1st?

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 5 Apr 2009 02:30

I read about that the other day, poor little girl, it's a bit of a daft name but at least it isn't one you can date so when she is older she can hide her age if she wants. When names become very common by being used so often, you can generally tell years on, what era that child came from and therefore guess their age lol
I do like more unusual names, hence my choice for my son, but I do think some are silly names, if they must have some daft ones, at least give the child one 'ordinary' name to be used instead if required.
As someone said tho, there is no doubt she will be cherished as much as her sisters, who looked nice little girls on the photograph. Would be nice for him to have a couple of little boys too tho perhaps.

Lizx

Meriwether

Meriwether Report 4 Apr 2009 21:10

I really think this a very silly name, but it's Absolutely Nothing To Do With Me. In fact I would never have known about it, had the board not drawn it to my attention. Who knows, in a few years people might be calling their children Butter Bean Elixir of Moonshine, for all I know. Who wants to turn back the clock?

Deanna

Deanna Report 4 Apr 2009 18:51

I have a son GEORGE... named after his paternal grandfather who died when his son was only 11 years old.
I really love the name but knew what was going to happen when he got 'out there'.
I taught him to sing;

GEORGY PORGY PUDDIN AND PIE........
the look on the little faces the first time they sang it at him and he joined in.
bless them.
Deanna X

Teddys Girl

Teddys Girl Report 4 Apr 2009 16:07

When my OH heard this on TV last night his comment was -

Goodness gracious, or words like this, I cant say on here.

Bit like Bob Geldof and Paula Yates daughters names.

Mo

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 4 Apr 2009 15:51

I found out about Petals birth yesterday morning. My workmates son is a close friend of Jamies.

We all agreed it was a bit of a daft name, I like Poppy and Daisy for names but Petal doesnt have the same ring to it really.

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 4 Apr 2009 15:24

My Great Aunt refused to talk to me for a fortnight when I named my eldest a name she didn't approve of lol. TOUGH. She found my reception towards her a bit chilly from there on in............even more so when she moaned about my youngest being another girl........WOW what a crime lol .......

My eldests name isn't actually especially unusual but when I chose it 9 yrs ago it wasn't AS well known as it is now but I still like it regardless

Not keen on the Oliver's choice of name if truth be told but I'm sure she'll grow into it .......If I can read about *Peaches* and not bat an eyelid these days I'm sure in 20yrs I 'll do the same for Petal lol xx

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 4 Apr 2009 15:22

Surely it is up to them what they call her. I probably would prefer her sisters names of Poppy and Daisy but they are not likely to ask my opinion and why should they. Incidentally 'different' names are not all that modern. When i was in my teens in the 50s I knew of a 'Rainbow'
Why do we think that we have the right to criticize other people's choice of names? Something which is very personal.

Ann
Glos.