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Terry

Terry Report 28 Aug 2008 23:29

If we met an alien life form would we know it was ! alife form
2 from outer space?

Terry

Terry Report 28 Aug 2008 22:15

Wrote this once before I must confess! Did read that the universe is construct that is constantly expanding but only has internal dimensions, so I guess we the universe could be even smaller than a speck on anothers leg.

Terry

Terry Report 28 Aug 2008 21:13

Once read a aSci fi story about a war in space that had come to a stalemate, hundreds of years everything being checkmated by the each side.
Then a youngster noticed that you could 4+3 and get 7 without using a calculator.
He quickly began doing the sums needed for the next battle and lo because he'd made a couple of mistakes; they won.
Logic that said they should have done something didn't work out because they hadn't.
Talking about Star Wars the logical people with the pointy ears would have been killed off because we need a degree of illogic to cope with the unexpected and illogical

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 28 Aug 2008 20:31

Can you imagine trying to explain the concept of a ball point pen to the guys who wrote the dead sea scrolls....?

Or mobile phones, cars, space travel or the internet?


Sue

Sue Report 28 Aug 2008 20:09

Terry

Punch cards were in use in the 60's. I worked at Sperry Univac!

I led the small team which coded, hand punched and verified an awful lot of the 1981 England census.

The first Fastrand was developed from a sewer pipe.

I am full of bits of useless info about computers!

Terry

Terry Report 28 Aug 2008 19:49

Computors the first computor punch cards ( a device once used to feed information into a computor) were in fact a copy in smaller form of the cards used to steer weaving frames. A seventies and eighties job was a punch card operator.
And programes, most knitting patterns are in fact basic( not the computor language) programmes.
We have simply adapted previously know ideas to new uses.
The need to make better and smaller cryptographic apparatus, along with spy techniques to make micro dot filming have made micro chips possible though doudt wether either would at first see their connection.

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 28 Aug 2008 19:29

Yeah, I think the law of averages or odds says that somewhere there must be a planet orbiting round a star the same size as the sun, with a similar mixture of gases and building blocks of life....perhaps that planet spawned life many millions of years before us and 'seeded' other planets? Who knows?

What is life? By life do we mean consciousness and form in our image? Why not a silicon based monopod life form as opposed to our carbon based bipod lifeform?

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 28 Aug 2008 19:15

I think the mobile phone thing requires a leap of faith - my first mobile needed a rucksack to carry it round, lol - I think they have evolved the same as the house telephone.

Computers existed since the 1940's - but not recogniseable as we know them today really. The silicon chip revolution continues to advance every day.

But I do think there will be massive innovation in the future - I like to envisage peronal transportation in some form of mini cold fusion driven car type thing, tourism to Mars and maybe beyond, space travel approaching the speed of light - imagination is all that is needed :-)

Terry

Terry Report 28 Aug 2008 19:13

Actually many of the norsk Gods were pretty nice even the pigs they ate came back to life next day.
Like much else toughened up by a few spin doctors in the first half of the 20 th century
I like Arran jumpers too specially in the winter when temps go below minus ten c

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 28 Aug 2008 19:08

Yeah, it probably is possible - if not probable - that alien beings :

A) Exist

B) Are able to harness a mode of travel unkown to current science

C) Are interested enough in the human race to swoop and pirouette around the sky in gravity defying manouevers just to show off to us

D) Despite being so incredibly advanced, only manage to abduct truck drivers from Arkansas with the IQ of a garden fork

E) Are able to telepathically communicate with chosen ones (who have the IQ of a garden fork)

F) etc.

:-)

Hoobity

Hoobity Report 28 Aug 2008 19:07

If Aliens are visiting our planet they must be extremely more intelligent than we are to be able to travel at such vast speeds to reach us and I can only assume they must view us as merely pets to play with or crush.
Unless they travel at warp speed, lol

Sue

Sue Report 28 Aug 2008 19:02

Oi

I like Arran jumpers!

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 28 Aug 2008 19:01

I love the norse gods. They are my type of Gods. If having a God was compulsory, I would have the old norse ones. Valhalla is a cool place to be and there is definetely something about those valkyries and norns...

Yes, the norse lot are real gods, not namby pamby sandal wearing arran jumper BIll Oddie look alike gods.

Terry

Terry Report 28 Aug 2008 18:58

Eldrick just as predicted in an old episode of "Soap" someone was beamed down to his waiting wife.

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 28 Aug 2008 18:54

I'm sure there are lots of UFO things sneaking around - but I doubt they are from another planet :-)

Joking apart, the distances are too great and there is no rhyme nor reason for alien spaceships to randomly appear and disappear all over the place - and as for abducting people and stealing cattle....


I feel justified in pouring scorn and ridicule on those theories without fear of being reported :-)

I think.

Terry

Terry Report 28 Aug 2008 18:54

Frøya one of the norsk gods had a boat Skibladner which which when Frøya was finished sailing in it could be folded small enough to fit into a small keather purse carried around his waist
The Slavic Baba Jaga who lived in a hut with chicken legs and ate naughty children.
Each could be interpretated as coming from Space or the auther autheress chewing a little bit too much of the magic mushroom.
Just about all peoples have their mystical writtings, all put down as interesting but along comes the Dead Sea scrolls written in the main in a form of Hebrew almost unknown and we are expected to give them higher status than example rune writtings

Sue

Sue Report 28 Aug 2008 18:37

For Eldrick

http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp/educational_site/dead_sea_scrolls/words_moses.shtml

Mmmmm make it up as you go along!

Sue

Sue Report 28 Aug 2008 18:27

In all honesty I can't believe in the above re flying saucers and ancient uber (ueber cos I don't know where my umlaut is) intelligent beings.

I believe there are UFOs simply because some objects are in flight and unidentified. I keep an open mind on that one.

I am much more interested in the theological studies!

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 28 Aug 2008 18:21

But how good would that be, finding that and then going on a treasure hunt? Its reall life Indiana Jones stuff, isn't it.

:-)

Sue

Sue Report 28 Aug 2008 18:16

The copper scroll was literally scrolled and they cut it up to decipher it and

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The text is in Hebrew, which is certainly a known language, but most ancient Hebrew texts that we have are religious in nature, and the Copper Scroll is anything but religious. Most of its vocabulary is simply not found in the Bible or anything else we have from ancient times.

Not only is the vocabulary of the scroll very technical, some of the geographical locations are unknown after so many years, many are too specific and some refer to places that no longer exist. Take some of the following examples:


"In the gutter which is in the bottom of the (rain-water) tank..."


"In the Second Enclosure, in the underground passage that looks east..."


"In the water conduit of [...] the north[ern] reservoir..."

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It reminds me of one of the internet games that ruled some years ago offering a massive cash prize or dimaond if you could solve the intricate and seemingly never ending puzzle. I know I did one...lol