General Chat

LIndy, you have to ask yourself how you would feel if you let this go and then the younger child were badly injured or worse. Even if she wasn't killed by the older child, she could be left brain damaged or such if she does the string round the neck thing again or something else. How on earth does a child of four think of using a noose like that? What has she seen on tv or heard about?
I hope your son's girlfriend can help this family to help the older girl so she doesn't do her sister damage and also become even more disturbed. As an ex childminder for many years, I would be very concerned for the older child and even more so for her young sister.
Good luck, Lindy, it is a hard choice to make but you cannot just leave this to the parents if they are going to hush it up and not deal with the problem.
Lizx

Maggie,

I need to sleep so will chat in the morning...My neighbours are Portuguese and they have a lot of family to support them

Believe me that if I tried to talk to the Grandparents
it would be a mission impossible...

I do know that the girls have their own rooms..

nite nite

Lindy xx

Rocky Mountain Shy,

Thank you for your input..I really don't know what to say as I do not want to be the person to report this child to social services..

It is not me!!! ...These are wonderful parents and so is the little girl when she is in the mood....

My youngest son's girlfriend is a child therapist..so will ask her to consult with the family...

If I am wrong, God help me!

Am really going to bed now and taking a pill so I don't have to think...

Lindy xx

There's two and a half years between my girls, and there was a certain amount of jealousy, but the eldest would never have done anything like this!!
She tried to exclude her from her 'mates' when they came around (this was when she was 4/5), but was never violent towards her.
What do they do when the children go to bed?
The eldest could get up and do anything, as she seems that way inclined.
Are your neighbours Portuguese?
Do you ever see the grandparents?
Perhaps a word to them is needed.
I understand your wish not to get 'authority' involved.

Clare,

Thank you for your imput...my two boys also have two years difference in there age, actually two years and four days and they are born in the same month but as different as day and night but not agressive...

I am very fond of my neighbours girls and the eldest gave me a kiss on Christmas day...does not even kiss the parents. Will only talk to you when she feels like it..

I really think that this little one has a problem...but is it my place to get involved...??

Lindy...

Off to bed now ...not that I will be able to sleep..

nite ...nite...

Maggie and Clare,

I really have a problem here as my OH wants me lodge a complain to Social Security...no idea what you call it over there...

I do not agree with him as this is not a welfare situation and over here they are so quick to remove the children from the parents...

I think that my young neighbours needs to talk to a professional ...but their attitude was one of ."It's my problem so back off "

They respect our age so would never say anything...
This is the Portuguese way..

Lindy xx

Ann,

From past experience the eldest one is very jealous but even worse is not a people person...nor am I for that matter...but at that age... I think the the little one has problems.

Lindy xx

OMG Lindy - that is awful!!! thank god you and hubby were there!!

They should be able to see the string mark - don't blame them for not wanting to talk about it though - they could have years of problems ahead.
To get the string (rather than try with bare hands) smacks of premeditation too!!

Well done you and hubby.

oh Lindy, how awful for you and how awful for the baby and what's going on - let's hope they sit up and take more notice from now on, the eldest is probably very jealous the baby - does happen of course

I am really getting mad as four times I have tried to write this and every time it has disappeared...

So the short version is...Nice neighbors next door, moved in two years ago , woman pregnant with a two year old...When baby born on two different occasions two year old tried to throttle baby with her hands...sorry but because of typing disappearing cannot be more subtle..

All has been well until this afternoon, .both families making BBQ..
and as usual we chatted over the fence.

For some reason or the other both parents went indoors...to make salads or whatever..

The daughter nearly four year old put a string around nearly two year old sister's neck and pulled it...This happened in an instant and parents did not see....but I did. ( Our house is higher up, so look into neighbors yard )

When I saw what was happening I over reacted and screamed blue murder....both parents were inside, doing whatever and my 61 year old man jumped the fence...he has pulled muscles in both legs. I never thought that he could do something like that...but God helps those that help others....

The parents believe us but don't want to talk about it...

My head is going around and around and I really don't know what to do...

Well I am off to bed now and hopefully in the morning things will appear as a dream...

Lindy