General Chat

Shmmering you have hit the nail on the head, The game's that are available to the youngster's these day's glorify weapon's, mugging, blowing away people with gun's, and stealing car's, to name a few, So it is no coincidence that the increase in violence regarding weapons has been since these arcade type violent games have been freely available to brainwash the younger generation and in my personal opinion should be more regulated if not banned

Jax, it's just common sense, so agree with you. Kids can't even build dens now without complaints.

A lot of this new 'culture' is down to video/playstation games where they live in virtual world, think same outside, plus certain 'cartoons' on tv - if were real actors would be 18 and over.

Its ok Shimmer we are singing from the same hymn sheet :o)

Breaks my heart when turn on news, read newspapers - lol, could be my son, so feel for them. Always remember the little boy, harming no-one, playing football. There one min, gone next. Heart goes out to all families.

No child should carry a knife ever. Trouble is, they're easy targets - mobile phones, mp3's ...

Sorry Jax, meant for defence, didn't put that in. My son was in Sea Scouts, Duke of Ed, ... need penknives for that too, different intent.

My son carries a penknife when he goes fishing though he keeps it in his tackle box which is locked until he needs it then it is put back in afterwards.

If there is a genuine reason for using one as my son has I see no harm in it but there is no need to carry knives for your own protection if anything carrying one for that reason gives the impression that you are willing to use one and in turn puts those carrying in line for trouble.

It is an offence to have a sharp or pointed object with a blade in excess of 3" in a public place.....if it is a fixed or locking blade.

So your ordinary knife, the one you butter your bread with, fits into that category quite nicely.

If your picnic is in a public place....

Some people would only want the military to have picnics using these deadly weapons ....:-)

We would have to just drink bowls of soup and eat unpeeled apples.

Eldric it just shows the ineffectiveness of it :)

My friends OH very high in police force, best weapon is your front door key. Have right to carry, heaven forbid you need to use, but will do damage.

I wasn't aware they'd banned knives re picnics.

We used to have youth clubs coffee bars, somewhere to go, weren't angels but don't remember happy slapping,knives guns ... Can't bear that, they'd have gone to borstal.

Just my personal opinion.

Yeah, good memory.

The Prevention of Crimes act (1954...?) made it an offence to possess, when not in your place of abode, any article or instrument adapted, intended or made for causing harm or injury...or any weapon of offence

The Restriction of Offensive Weapons act..1958(?) then went on to define certain things which were offensive weapons per se - and included and spring or gravity opening knife, any truncheon, blackjack, etc etc.

Im going on memory here, so the odd word might be wrong, but thats the essence of it.

It was still law 18 months ago....never heard of it being repealed yet....

Then theres the criminal justice act..1988 I think...possession of a locking knife in a public place with the blade exceeding 3" is a prohibited.

So there are plenty of laws banning knives etc.

Anyone still think we need another ban on top of this....?

Nice one Budgie :)
I think it was just flick-knives banned

Joking apart, the most common everyday objects are excellent defensive weapons for anyone who knows how to use them.

A newspaper is highly effective and can be used to incapacitate someone very easily. A pencil can be used as a lethal weapon with very little skill needed.

You are prevented from taking all sorts onto an aircraft. Once you get on board, just take a look around at what can be used as lethal weapons......use your imagination.

maggie your right, any object can be used as a weapon, pens, pencils can be just as leathal............ saw a programme on it, never let my boy walk with one always tell him to put it down or away in bag.....
xxx

II was well peed off when they banned ALL from carrying a knife. Makes the picnic hard to eat.
As Eldrick has said, it's not the knife that's dangerous it's the pratts who think it's okay to attack with them.
A brick is a pretty impressive 'defensive' weapon, as for that matter is a compass when stabbed in the right place. Frozen chickens can kill too - they're not banned yet, but if enough people use them for the wrong reasons, you never know, they might be.
It's not the carrying of the knife that's dangerous, it's the reason for carrying the knife and the mentality of the carrier.
Personally I carry one to peel apples with.

maggie

Afraid its the person whose hands its in that kills not the implement itself & we cant ban their mentality or lack there of, with respect :)

Well, heres a thing. A bit of science.

Tests have shown that a knife with a razor sharp blade 17" long and a serrated back, called a 'Rambo Commando', can be left alone on a table for several hundred years and it will not harm a single person or even a fly, for that matter. Or, heaven forbid, a squirrel!

Isnt that the maddest thing!

It would appeal to my sense of humour watching everyone trying to eat their steaks in a restaurant with chopsticks once knives were banned :-)

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

lol

Apart from your sarcasm Eldrick I feel you seem keen to allow Knives freely available - for what I wonder.

Yes I think they should be banned - as in the manufacture and retail of such, all these types of weapons should be held with the defense forces - there is no need for civilians to run around the country with knives about them.

That is my personal opinion which I have a right to state.

Gill

True there Eldric
Doc you right :)

to make something a banned item or illegal,
is only another way of the gov't getting revenue in.

Well, it's a case of tackling the cause not the symptom.

The symptom always goes in the too hard to deal with tray, because there are always masses of bearded sandal wearing experts fresh out of university who have been given grants by obscure inner city councils to study the causes of dropping chewing gum onto the pavement and why kids carry knives.

They don't listen to the people that know, because the solution is too difficult and its cheaper to give it to the experts to do more studies.