General Chat

How many people really believe there to be a need for political
correctness?.
How many like me think Class Distinction, the father and
mother of P.C.?.
Who remembers the TWO RONNIES scetch, their take
off on class??.
Class distinction continues the need for the ime better
than you, but not as good as him brigade.Why???????
Because it lays out guide lines on what a person may or
may not do in front of a third party.The nobs call it Ethecut
peasants like me call it ,SSsssshhhhh the Doctors coming'
Quite its the headmaster.' Not infront of the vicar ,put the
budgey in the other room quick. The middle class ladies
are coming with old shoes, run quick nell and bring the best
china mind,
Oh its master Robert squires son,clever him went to
public school'

well what do you all think?

colin F

Good argument there col.

Dont think it happens so much nowadays as in the 50'c/60's when i was growing up. Now ithink the "elite classes" and i say that tongue in cheek are as badly or worse behaved than you average pleabian society.

i live in a wealthy county so they say, and have seen them at hunts, race meetings etc , christ what a bad mannered shower of a*******s

Class has absolutely nothing to do with money - the Beckhams have money but no class. Alan Sugar has money but no class. They know which is the most expensive wine on the menu but do they know which glass to drink it from?
Class is an in-built thing and always will be.
Quite simply - you cannot buy it!

couldn't agree more Errol - money and class are invariably strangers to each other

Class is more than just a knowledge of etiquette and which fork to use.

Whether we like it or not we tend to feel more comfortable in one social group rather than another. It may be the one we were born into or perhaps we have changed because of who we like and the sort of job we do.

Our family histories are made more interesting because they tend to be made of a mixture of people. We've probably all got families with members who have done well for themselves while others have ended up poorer and perhaps less educated than earlier ones.

I suppose we all tend to find our own group normal and the behaviour of others perhaps odd or even something we dislike.

Class is an emotive word and tends to have implication that one social group is better than another but people who are real ladies and gentlemen are the sort who'd be polite and well behaved in all situations.

As Errol says newly gained money doesn't make class but many of those with so called old money are no better behaved.

Sue

My dad brought us up to speak to Kings and beggars the same way. Have of admit to speaking to both!!
My dad's view was that education wasn't the lynchpin - ignorance was.
A person may have all the money in the world and the best education money an buy, but if he is ignorant it will always show.
A person may be living on the streets, full of alcohol and drugs, never had a proper schooling - but will be a better man than the stockbroker who sneering at him, shows his ignorance.

I always find it funny when someone with money thinks they are better than me. I know I am better than them when it comes to living on nothing!!!

maggie

I think it should be ignored,
Why should we be forced to say;
"The glass is half empty"
when we have always said;
"The glass is half full"

???

Gov Gen is on different side of the fence to where little Johnny howhard and Costello are, I'm sure if either of those 2 went walking by a regular person in the street, they do their best to avoid, just look at the way they spoke and act in parlaiment, they deffinately showed they were not concerned for the working class.

I would not try to avoid them, I'd love to go into question time and ask a few questions the public want answers for.

but they have run away and hid themselves, so I am out of luck.

I just can't win when trying to hide,
wish I was a politician, would have worked then.

One thing that really annoyed me, and I watched question time to see it go on,

When either of them was asked a question, you could tell they had no answer when they replied with;

"O O O Oh, the labor party had 13 yrs to fix that and what became of it, O O Oh"

Well thing is mainly, Australia did need the change, problem is, many will jump up and down now screaming that things are not being done, they have to work them out proper before doing something.
Rudd is getting blame on interest and fuel already, Gillard is copping it about workplace changes.
How pathetic can they get really?

Problem with balled paper vote is, not everyone does fill out the vote, if it's is left blank it automatically goes to the current party.

going back to original question colin
DO YOU THINK THERE A NEED FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS

I think that PC can go too far and respect for others is more important. I would imagine the need to show respect for other groups of people is where PC grew from but in some ways it has gone too far.

How ever i do not believe that voicing the common opinion that political correctness has gone mad is an excuse for being offensive to others

Well all i can say, theres nout oughty about
Prince Charles. One day hunting at Prees
H R H was stood by a closed gate. Mousey
Fieldhouse from Mkt/Dryton came along on a tractor
leaning out of the cab he said " A mon,its easier for you to get off that horse, than me this tractor".
Where upon H R H with a grin obliged. As they
say Noblesse Oblige
True story.

colin

WEBBIE HON: your right,
ME--well i think the founding fathers got it
right first time when they said--ALL MEN ARE EQUAL IN THE SIGHT OF GOD---------------
This wanting others in subjection, to control
others lives, is from satan , who people dont
believe in, therefore making it easy for him to control their lives, and we see evidence of that daily.

colin

I do believe that political correctness has gone too far.. however it goes back to live & let live.. letting everyone have their own views without hurting others.

Unfortuntaly we live in a world that isnt equal no matter what political party or regime you have..

Colin.. I dont think it has anything to do with Satan (whether you believe in satan or not).. everyone has their own views however history has shown that mass hysteria often changes an individuals views..

Hi Colin,

my fathers saying to us was,

nobody is better than you - but your no better than them.

money doesn't make a man.

I have been in the company of the well off, was not amused with their behaviour, flicking food across the table breaking wind while eating,
listening to them insulting the less fortunate who were working for them, yes they were business people and was employing them, knowing they were on the dole.

Joan G

I never envey peoples money, or those with it
its like dew drops---it filters down to the roots.
Ime pleased for any one to get on in life, me ive
never had an interest, had i have done so, i
would have been up there with the rest of them
Easiest thing in the world is to make money working class.
people love giving it away

colin