General Chat

I use PAF5 free to download from familysearch.org and tribalpages which is free with upgrades available.

Claire
I have nudged my infamous "Tree Bandits"
thread on Tips for you.

xxx mick

I used genopro as my basic family tree program for years and I upgraded to the full version.

I like it because it is easy to use.

www.genopro.com

Sue

Yes I had one line pinched, so I removed it, and there was no family link to the person.......the reason given for taking the names.......he had one person who, to my mind was not even a relation, and he wanted the names in case they were related later.....

On another note, I googled my boardname and have come up with someone else using the name Sally Moonchild with a gt.gt.gt.grandfather Henderson.......not mine, and not my GR number either.......the posting was on Success Stories......I have tried PM'ing her but both times it was unsuccessful, so I have got onto GR to see if it is a glitch.....

Thank you :)

Sue
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Sue.....................you put that beautifully:)

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Sue, Well said.

Like it or not, as soon as you publish info on the web, it is potentially available for all to see. If you don't want people to see it, don't put it there in the first place.

There is also the impression whenever this subject crops up that people who 'copy' information are acting deviously. Why? I am sure many believe that they are doing nothing wrong at all and in fact this is the way sites such as this should work.

I have shared my tree with over 200 people, and very few are interested in anything but their own little connection. Yes, there are some who record distant cousins to the present day, but so what, if that is what keeps them happy.

Of course, we must be security aware, and this is why it is foolish to record too much personal information on public sites.

I agree with everything you've said, Sue.

Oh dear

Same problem crops up every few days.

First of all I believe strongly that the default should be so that you have to make a decision to let someone see your tree rather than have to remember to untick a box. It is all too easy to not spot that.

What I don't understand though is why anyone is using the GR tree to add in all their research and all their living family. Why are people putting their children and other living individuals online?

Everyone should be creating their main tree offline (there are decent and adequate free tree programs as well as more sophisticated expensive ones). All your research notes should be safely stored offline and only shared with those you really want to see them.

You do not need to put your kids on GR to research your ancestors! This site is for making contact with possible relations but that doesn't mean you have to tell a 4th or 5th cousin every detail about your private life.

You can disguise any necessary living people on your tree (perhaps a parent is still alive or you want to include your spouse's tree so need him or her). On my own GR tree any living person is called Living Living or Living Person or some such. Using the GR hiding option is not sufficient as anyone who knows how can do searches and find names even without seeing a tree.

Keep the GR tree simple and basic. Add only the people on it who you don't mind showing others if you accidentally open your tree.

Be cautious as suggested by others here. Send a few messages to find out what sort of connection there may be and perhaps sending just a few notes will be enough. If someone turns up who you'd like to see more, opening your tree will not give them more than basic details and a bare framework. Your research notes will still be only yours.

If I open my tree I tell my new contact that he/she is welcome to take any relevant connecting ancestors. If they were to take my entire GR tree it would surprise me but do no real harm. It would give them a very bare tree but no more.

Please people use your common sense.........we live in a world where we are constantly told to be careful to protect our identities. Putting personal details on any online site (GR included) is not necessary and not sensible.

Sue
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Just a reminder, if you decide to contact a 'hot' match, make sure you untick the box that allows the other person to see your tree, before you send it. I believe GR should have the box blank and we have to actively tick it if we want the other person to view our tree. Alternatively if that box was above the 'send' box we would not forget to untick it.
Huia.

Even though you've ticked hide living relations, they will still show up by using the search box at the top of the screen.
It would be far better to buy some software such as Family Tree Maker (£5.99 in the supermarket) then you can keep your full tree on there & delete the living from GR tree

I think that GR just contacted me about it Kitty as they where sick of the other person contacting them, but i still don't think that they should have contacted me as i think if i don't let someone view my tree that should be the end of it

The subject of tree copying comes up at least once a week, usually on Tips.

The complaints I've heard, how true they are I couldn't say.

Whole trees been copied ie both Mum's & Dad's sides

Trees beoing copied & passed on to a third person who then copies the lot as well

Children appearing in other people's trees

Living people being copied

The odd professional copying trees & selling them!

As a result I no longer open my tree to anyone but I'm happy to share my information.

Opening your tree is giving permission to copy the lot, it's in the T&C's, although direct authority is required to include living people.

Thanks Lisa......................so you were asked rather than told.

That should put Deanna's mind at rest then..................I find it all a bit strange that they should go to the trouble of contacting you though, but GR sets the rules I suppose.

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I was the person who was asked by GR to let someone view my tree as the person had kept asking me to let them view my tree but i refused so they contacted GR who then emailed me about me letting the person view my tree

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Hello Kaz~~~~~~~~~~

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HI Kaz.....;-0) XX

i'm same as you kitty, our trees are ours, if i was told to share my tree and there was no grounds to, i'd hit delete from this site and say bye, bye...
they must have misunderstood....... (well i hope its a case of that).. gawd if its not ...eh

ooops wheres me manners, hi everyone, ~~~~

kaz xxxxx

I'm not suggesting they lied to you Deanna......................but why on earth would GR worry about who has access to what tree?

Your tree belongs to you and you are the only one who has the ability to share or not..............not GR or another member.

I really think they have got it completely wrong.

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