General Chat

I personelly feel the M Ps should be left as they are--lets
be honest they arent doing anything we aint done--answer
honestly-----If your claiming travell allowance from you firm
do you--Go in your own car?
Do you travell in car full all claiming travelling allowance?
That meal out you claim for and take your own sandwiches?
Do you declare your tax honestly--how about the week end
foriegners--the cash in hand jobs?
Claiming for things dishonestly against your tax forms
I could go on all night but you have to agree when you
examine yourself the Honerable Members of Parliment
aint so bad after all

colin F

*looks for her halo*

Um, let me get back to you on that, lol ..............
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My accountant would not allow me to claim for a new £10.000 kitchen and an airconditioning unit for my 2nd home, not that I've got a 2nd home to put them in .. only a 2nd hand caravan on west sands selsey thats 3ft under water.

lorraine

Well when i worked on the MPBW
we used claim all sorts and i dont
mean liqourice
colin

sorry to hear that L

colin

Well it's insuranced colin nobody was hurt during the storms which is the main thing

do you think the insurance company will believe my claim of a

£10k kitchen
air conditoning
and £300 coffee maker

But people do costantly take for a diiferent view
if you will moral dishonesty----
People working in benifit dept;who feel the need to
strike for more money--yet these same people
with hold information concerning befits people
in need might be entitled too--department policy??
or is it because they resent parting with money
like an old farmer i worked for once--when i asked
him where was the tips some of the owners
recond theyd left with him for me---He said no
point in given a working mon any extra than he
earns theyd only waste it

colin

sorry i should have explained--i was a stud groom
mares foals and stallions
colin

MPBW? What is that exactly please? Anyone who falsely claims for expenses is thieving - there is no other word for it. I have never stolen in my life and don't ever intend to, I was brought up better than that. It's certainly nothing to brag about.

Lorraine - so sorry to hear of your dilemma, but as you say, no one was hurt so that's a plus

Thanks Ann

we only use it in the holidays some poor people live there

Colin, that may be true, but how can you claim a housing allowance for something that you own outright and don't have to pay for. Also, if we have to buy our furniture out of our pay then why the hell can't they? It's not like we get furniture allowance for a new sofa and bed, is it? These people earn enough money without getting more in allowances than some of us could earn in two years.

Lorraine, glad that no one was hurt but sad for your situation. Hope the insurance covers a good replacement for you.

colin

I worked in benefits department and never withheld any information from people who where entitled benefits.

Many retired people where entitled to pension credit they weren't getting and I sent them the forms to claim.

It wasn't my money it was government money so it made no difference to my pay packet what people got.

Sorry Colin,,,,,,what youre saying is claiming a little extra,,,

what MP;s do is out and out THEFT of PUBLIC money,,,our money that should be going to better uses,,like , the Elderly .Health,Schools,Transport,they are robbing this pot for all its worth,,,,,,,,,,,

Summer

Your reference to claiming housing benefit for a home thats owned reminded of a case we had

A woman had been claiming housing benefit for years for a house she rented she had a rent card and tenancy agreement for the propery was supposed to be a single woman with child

I asked for proof of househould bill and it had a mans name on it fraud pulled her in and it turned out

she owned the house, her mother had written the tenancy agreement and rent card, and she was married and her husband was in full time employment,
those are the people that make it hard for others to get benefit help as the forms that have to be filled in now are so long winded but its to help protect against fraud.

No,I can 100% say I have never done any of those things!!
And I expect a person in authority to be Honest in every way!

Good grief Lorraine, LOL. The cheek of some people. I was brought up to be honest on the back of...it would always be our luck to get caught. LOL.

I wasn't talking about housing benefit though, I was talking about the MP's they get an allowance for their houses ie for rent or mortgage etc. But at least one was claiming for their second home that they owned outright.

But I guess it proves that ordinary people can do it too...difference is if you do it like that woman did it's fraud, for an MP it's legit.

I agree, it's people like that who make it hard for genuine claimants. It never ceases to amaze me that the genuine suffer while the ones who you know are pulling the wool are some how coining it in.

you've gone very quiet Colin!

As my OH says - they get to Westminster and their feet go in the trough. Labour used to be a party for the people - they call themselves New Labour and Tony Blair was a prime example of grab all you can and more. Why did they all fight to keep these expenses quiet - an MP is paid by public money, his expenses are public money (and just recently I read where they can claim something like £250 per week expenses without giving any receipts- there are those who would like that sum as an income) all the money they receive is from the public - therefore the public have a right to know how much each MP is claiming and for what. They already have about the best pension in the world and who voted for it - they did.

When I used to submit my boss' expenses to the Chief Accountant and I am talking of the MD here - if he lost a receipt - that was his fault - no receipt no money! He soon got into the habit he took care of his receipts and gave them to me to keep safely until he needed to present them.

Chris, I'd love £250 a week, could get me a flat then LOL.

I don't understand why they don't have to pay for these things out of their pay. When a normal person has a pension fund they have to pay into it. How come the same doesn't appear to be so with the MPs, and that they can get allowances for household goods?

Because it is greed not need and there does not appear to be anyone in Westminster with the guts to stand up and say 'this is not right - we have sufficient'. The country is in dire straits and could get worse - if we had honest men and true with genuine expenses perhaps we could have clean hospitals or a couple of nice new prisons so the streets would be safer.