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Staffs Col

Staffs Col Report 13 Feb 2008 17:55

Just a thought....many murderers come to the attention of the police long before they commit murder but receive relatively short sentances. One person in point was Roy whiting who was convicted of the murder of Sarah Payne. five years before Sarah's death he was convicted of the kidnap and sexual assault of a nine year old girl. Whiting who pleaded guilty to that crime was sentanced to five years and releaded after less than 4 years during which time he refused all offers of treatment and was referred to by probation officials and prison psychiatrist as "high risk". If he had been locked away for life he wouldn't have gone on to murder Sarah

Whirley

Whirley Report 13 Feb 2008 17:55

Rose, 67% is too high and even the government has admitted that prison is NOT a deterrent and the stats in my eyes speaks volumes...

I don't think the type of crime committed is relevant the fact that 67% re offend is..

Rambling

Rambling Report 13 Feb 2008 18:03

well I don't disagree that sentencing is erratic to say the least....nor do i disagree that a re-offending level of 67% is way too high.....

I do think though that the type of crime IS relevant....for example...how many of those who re-offend...(excluding murders/ rapists etc) are 'drug -related offences' ?

It is a very broad and complex subject...as the views on all threads show!

xx

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 13 Feb 2008 18:05

It all depends if the person is genuinely remorseful of their crime, having time to think about their actions and being away from outside influences can change a person in a minority of cases.

It all depends on their crime, if they shot a person dead in a panic (the gun went off accidentally) as they fled a scene with others, then there may be room for remorse, rehabilitation and a new crime free life afterwards.

If someone was stalked & killed, or the killing was pre meditated, then in my opinion, little hope of rehabilitation

Twinklyoceanblue

Twinklyoceanblue Report 13 Feb 2008 18:12

My youngest brother got sent down a few years ago for ABH...he's 6' 5" and very well built. He got 6 months...served 3 then was tagged for a month...he certainly has learned his lesson and has since married and channels his energies into his family x

Whirley

Whirley Report 13 Feb 2008 18:29

the sad thing is Rose, prisons are rife with drugs!!

Amanda2003

Amanda2003 Report 13 Feb 2008 18:36

Some years ago my ex partner was in a re-habilitation ( drugs) place.His Mother was very ill and so he was allowed to visit
her......the "minder" who came with him was an ex-convict ( one of the Crays heavys).......he had turned his life around after a long prison sentance and decided to dedicate his life to helping people with drugs/alcohol problems........so in some cases people can and do change.
Amanda

Whirley

Whirley Report 13 Feb 2008 18:47

Hi Amanda, that's good to hear. My Dad when he had a business in London in the late 50's/early 60's actually got put upon by one of the Kray's lot....but that's another discussion..xx

Newby Kim

Newby Kim Report 13 Feb 2008 20:26

PMSL ..Mac, neither did my Dad ..
Came out of a night club in London one night... in the 60,s to trouble ... they threatened him so Dad .. flash of silver out of his pocket ?
guys ran off.... an me dad? ... he just picked up his car keys!!
xxx

Whirley

Whirley Report 13 Feb 2008 20:33

well, they wanted protection money off my dad, he refused,...........our family placed under Police protection cos of threats..........but hey, another story another night!!

mynameised

mynameised Report 13 Feb 2008 21:00

yes