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good idea.

Ann
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Me too Ann - I think I had better PM her to make sure she looks.

I hope Lisa picks this up.

Ann
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Lol Ann - it doesn't hurt to keep them handy for the future. They look a pretty likely pair:)

Well done Chrissy.

Ann
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And this could be his bride -

1901 England Census
Name: Lydia Sykes
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Gorton St Mark
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 86
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Sykes 10 months
Ann Sykes 32
James Sykes 11
John Sykes 13
Lydia Sykes 8
Mary Sykes 4
Thomas Sykes 35

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3686; Folio: 46; Page: 24.

And in case that proves to be right and Sam is about 24 on his marriage cert - this could be him in 1901. It's worth printing these off for the future in case.

1901 England Census
Name: Sam Stradling
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Frank
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Dewsbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Dewsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Stradling 4
Frank Stradling 43
Fred Stradling 15
Harry Stradling 12
Mary Emma Stradling 16
Sam Stradling 14
Sarah Stradling 42
Tom Stradling 18
William Stradling 20

Here's a reference to keep handy as a likely marriage for your gt grandparents Lisa.

Marriages Jun 1911
Stradling Sam Dewsbury 9b 1183
Sykes Lydia Dewsbury 9b 1183

Don't forget to let us know how you get on will you.

Ann
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thanks ann thats my first job tommorrow...lisa xx

checked it, it is/was W yorkshire so that is the one.

Now you really need to send for the marriage certificate, that will give your Gt grandfathers' names. So can you find £7.????

Ann
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ann that would be right spen valley is liversedge and surrounding areas but not a lot off ppl use spen anymore...your been a great help thanks a lot lisa xx

Found these but I did only search the years 1927 - 1929.

Mar 1/4 1928

Surname: Wilson
Name: Norman
Mother's maiden name: Summerscales
District: Dewsbury
Vol: 9b
Page No: 724

Dec 1/4 1929

Surname: Wilson
Name: Norman
Mother's maiden name: Ashman
District: Dewsbury
Vol: 9b
Page No: 664

Hi Lisa

Your grandparents marriage (if I have got it right, please somebody check) Doreen Sykes, bridegroom Wilson

March quarter 1945 Spen Valley vol. 9b page 1113

My problem is that I have not heard of Spen Valley

Ann
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hi ann ..my mum was born in 1945 and her name is annette poutney(wilson) thanks lisa xx

Lisa, when was your grandparents first child born do you know?

thankyou all very much...your a great help and i will take all your advise..this is going to take longer than i thought but i got time at the mo thanks lisa xx

Lisa, I found it's best to make a list of the certificates and give them priority.

I usually only buy death certs if I think there will be something important in them (like someone died young or I want to know who is listed as next of kin/who reported it).

Marriage certificates are good in the sense that they'll give you both father's names and occupations. They also give the bride and grooms ages (be careful they can and do lie) which can help you find their birth or narrow down a number of possibilities.

While birth certs will give you both parents names (providing they're not illegitimate), and father's occupation.

Only buy certificates direct from the GRO site or direct from a registrars office. The latter can be quicker but you pay 50p extra for postage - which adds up.

I only buy a siblings birth cert if there is something important in it (say I can't find the direct ancestors birth or marriage cert, a siblings cert will give me parents info that is likely to be pretty accurate - keep in mind they may actually be half-siblings)

Finally, ration yourself to only buying so many a time and only ones you really need.

With regards signing up to ancestry (which can be invaluable) first try your local library to see if they have it there. As often you can access it free there. If you really want to join up yourself then I recommend phoning them to see what deal you can get. There are some who have got the membership for £55 instead of £79, so it can be worth it. Or look around for one of those free membership for 14days things.

March 1/4 1928

Surname: Sykes
Name: Doreen
Mother's maiden name: Stradling
District: Dewsbury
Vol: 9b
Page No: 802

think all my redundancy will be spoken for then lol