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Will - but no burial!

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margaret

margaret Report 20 Aug 2019 11:13

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I have obtained a copy Will dated 1791, the probate granted 14/10/1805 at Liverpool.

I cannot find a burial place .

Dorothy Massey spinster. Born Rostherne 1741 who went to Liverpool with her two sisters -they were, Martha , Dolly & Sarah - .Martha the eldest married there in 1762

The spinsters both left a will. Probate dated 14 October 1805 for both.

Sarah is buried at St Nicholas. 29 May 1805

Their father Jeffrey was a farmer at Rostherne who died in 1759, So I am guessing the three sisters left the farm to join aunts and uncles in Liverpool at this time.

can anyone suggest a burial between 1791 when Dorothy wrote the will, and 1805 when probate was passed at Liverpool.
thank you.

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Aug 2019 12:03

Lancashire Wills & Probate 1457-1858

First name(s) Dorothy
Last name Massey
Year 1805
Date 14 Oct 1805
Occupation Spinster
Place Liverpool
Archdeaconry Chester
County Cheshire, Lancashire
Country England
Archive
Lancashire Archives
Archive reference 625A/65
Source
Lancashire Archives Probate Index Archdeaconry of Chester (supra wills 1800-1858)
Document ordering link https://lccsecure.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/questionnaires/runQuestionnaire.asp?qid=576248

and

Lancashire Wills & Probate 1457-1858

First name(s) Sarah
Last name Massey
Year 1805
Date 14 Oct 1805
Occupation Spinster
Place Liverpool
Archdeaconry Chester
County Cheshire, Lancashire
Country England
Archive
Lancashire Archives
Archive reference 625A/66
Source
Lancashire Archives Probate Index Archdeaconry of Chester (supra wills 1800-1858)
Document ordering link https://lccsecure.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/questionnaires/runQuestionnaire.asp?qid=576248
Record set Lancashire Wills & Probate 1457-1858

Presume you have read both wills and there is nothing in either of them about where they wished to be buried.

Presume you don't know where Dorothy died - it might well have decided where she was buried?

Have you actually seen the Parish register entry for Sarah or just a transcript - could it be that Dorothy was not transcribed or there are missing entries due to damage, illegible etc.

If buried elsewhere, perhaps the OPR has not survived?

Burials are the least well transcribed and available records. It seems Baptisms and marriages are of far more interest.

Initial thought is that Dorothy died not too long before Sarah and that they were both involved in each others wills and probate ended up being sorted out when the last of the 2 died?

There are many previous threads about this family - the one below lists more
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1378901

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Aug 2019 06:56

Her Death was 29th May...

Chris :)

Burial: 31 May 1805 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sarah Massey, Spinster -
Died: 29 May 1805
Age: 56 Years
Abode: Cropper St
Register: Burials 1805, Page 4, Entry 27
Source: LDS Film 1068889

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


County Lancashire
Place Liverpool
Church name Our Lady and St Nicholas
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 111
Burial date 31 May 1805
Burial person forename Sarah
Burial person surname MASSEY
Person age 56
Burial person abode Cropper Street
Notes Died 29 May. Spinster

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


(if below related)

Person named in coroners' accounts
Extent 1 entry
Date 1805
Description First name of deceased: SARAH
Surname of deceased: MASSEY
Place: BARTON UPON IRWELL
Comments: none

Coroners compiled claims for expenses incurred whilst conducting inquests and these were presented at Quarter Sessions for payment. They include the names of those for whom an inquest was held but rarely any other details about the circumstances. Unfortunately, no inquest files survive for these and the best source of supplementary information is local newspapers which are typically held by the local library service.

Access This material is available to view at Lancashire Archives. See our website or contact us for more details.

http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/calmview/


Wills for Ordering...

http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/calmview/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=W%2fCW%2fSupra%2fC625A%2f65&pos=34

http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/calmview/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=W%2fCW%2fSupra%2fC625A%2f66&pos=35

http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/calmview/

margaret

margaret Report 12 Sep 2019 15:04



I have both wills and there is nothing to indicate places of burial.
Just happened to find the one for Sarah.at St Nicholas where a few of the family married.

Not sure what the attachment on Barton upon Irwell means - is that an alternative suggestion? That being a Manchester location?

There are literally hundreds of that name in that area. of Lancashire & Cheshire.