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Name: Horace Reginald Vardi
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Corporal
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Army Service Corps
Regimental Number: T3/024138
Previous Units: R.A.S.C. T3/024138 Corporal.

Just for information and to show how people move around, this Vardy family (though not the new forest):
1891 census
Arthur Vardy
Birth Year: 1844 Birth Place: Bransgore, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Mary Vardy
Child: Fred Ryder Vardy Croydon 24
William Chs Vardy Croydon 20
Edith Julia Vardy Croydon 17
May Ethel Vardy Croydon 15
Bessie Bell Vardy Croydon 13
Bertha Grace Vardy Croydon 10
Lillian J Vardy Southampton 6
Civil Parish: Millbrook Residence Place: Shirley, Millbrook, Hampshire, England Sub registration district: Millbrook
ED, Institution or Vessel: 4 Piece: 927 Folio: 63

Horace R Vardi on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Vardi Household (10 People) 15 Heath Grove , Penge U.D., Kent, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Horace R Vardi 02 Oct 1885 Male Motor Driver Married 252 1
Ellen Vardi 01 Jun 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 252 2
Horace E Vardi 31 Jan 1912 Male Garage Hand Married 252 3
Nellie M Vardi 16 Sep 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 252 4
Florence L Strong (Vardi) 30 Mar 1916 Female Laundry Ironer Single 252 5
George W Vardi 23 Apr 1918 Male Butchers Assistant Single 252 6
Dorothy E Beckway (Vardi) 07 Mar 1920 Female Laundry Ironer Single 252 7
Jack E Vardi 20 Jun 1922 Male Butchers Assistant Single 252 8
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Yes, I had a quick look and could not see any.

Thanks for your answers.
I can't find any census records showing Horace Vardi with his mother from 1891 or 1901 & only as greyghost has stated above, in 1911 when he was married & living in Penge.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

DAVIS WINIFRED ETHEL - Order
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 333 Order

VARDI, HORACE ERNEST GEORGE DAVIS Order
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 691

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
Davis Ellen Croydon 2a 610
Putman Violet E Croydon 2a 610
Vardi Horace R Croydon 2a 610
Webley Arthur L Croydon 2a 610

For our info.

1911 Census For England & Wales
7 Heath Grove, Penge, Surrey & Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Horace Reginald Vardi Head Married Male 25 1886 Carter On General Carrier Croydon Surrey
Ellen Vardi Wife Married Female 25 1886 - Penge Surrey
Winifred Ethel Davis Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Penge Surrey

From image. Married less than a year. 1 child born to marriage

Have you found Horace with his Mother in the censuses?

The spelling of the surname could be just down to the fact that a lot of people were illiterate in those days and may not have noticed if their name was not written correctly.

It looks like Horace Reginald's surname was registered as Vardy:-

First name(s) HORACE REGINALD
Last name VARDY
Birth year 1885
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name -
District Croydon
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 192
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births

Pregnant girls often left home and ended up giving birth in a workhouse (my own grandmother did), but I wouldn't think that there was any need for them to change their name.

Kath. x

I'm kind of new to this & I've come up again a sticking point!

I'm presently researching my maternal family tree.

My Grandfather - Horace Ernest George Vardi - born 1912
My Great Grandfather - Horace Reginald Vardi - born 1885

According to his birth certificate, Horace Reginald VARDI was born in the Croydon Workhouse Infirmary & his mother was listed as Elizabeth VARDY, a Domestic Servant from Croydon.

I have not been able to find anything further for Elizabeth Vardy, but I assume that if she gave birth in the Workhouse, perhaps this is why the spelling of the surname was amended from VARDY to VARDI?

I can only find records for a SARAH ELIZABETH VARDY - born c.1869 in Beaulieu, New Forest, Hampshire, England.

Her parents are shown as Henry Vardy & Sarah Vardy (nee White).

Is anyone able to clarify if I'm "going down the road" & if this information that I've found already, is correct?

Am I to assume correctly that if an unmarried, single mother was pregnant around this era, that in most cases, she would have to leave her family & perhaps change her name?
Which is why Sarah Elizabeth Vardy from Hampshire, went to Croydon to give birth & amended her name to Elizabeth Vardi?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...& thanks for reading.