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Missing siblings of my grandfather

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Patricia

Patricia Report 2 Nov 2008 15:22

John Henry York b.19.9.1888.to William York and Jane(jeanie) Taylor at 131 Herrie Street, Chelsea. John was adopted by an Aunt when he was about 3 years old and went to live with her near Fort William in scotland. He never had any further contact with his birth family. Family chat says he may have had 3 brothers probably older. There may even be younger siblings. I would love to solve the mystery for my mum (83 years).

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 2 Nov 2008 15:30

Have you found him on the 1891 census?

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 15:42

1891

John H York
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Where born: Chelsea, London, England
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London

Arthur T York 11/12
George York 8
Jane York 34
John H York 2
Leonard W York 5
Robert T York 6
William York 37

William was a house painter, born Croydon.
Jane born Northumberland

131 Herries st, Chelsea

K

K Report 2 Nov 2008 15:51

1901?

Name: William York
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jamie A
Gender: Male
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Hampstead
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members: Name Age
John Miller 33 Relative b Scotland
Maria L Morris 40 Visitor
George York 18 b Paddington
Jamie A York 39 b Scotland
John M York 2
Maggie H York 5 months
Robert K York 16 b Chelsea
William York 47 House Painter
William L York 15 b Chelsea

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 15:53

1901 (Jeanie has been transcribed Jamie)

William York
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jamie A
Gender: Male
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Hampstead
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: London
John Miller 33 (relative)
Maria L Morris 40
George York 18
Jamie A York 39 now born Scotland!
John M York 2
Maggie H York 5 months
Robert K York 16
William York 47
William L York 15

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 15:53

oops Snap!

K

K Report 2 Nov 2008 15:57

You found the 1891! - With the late birth of two children I wonder if there was a second marriage?

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 15:59

Can you find the elder John in 1901 though?

So you think Jane and Jeanie are 2 different people?

K

K Report 2 Nov 2008 16:03

Possible death of Jane and maybe the reason John was adopted


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Deaths Dec 1892 (>99%)
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York Jane 35 Chelsea 1a 212

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Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 16:04

Aha! There is a Jane York death in Chelsea in 1892, Jane aged 35 which ties in with the census.

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 16:05

Think you're one step ahead of me today!!

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 16:07

Jeannie Anderson Miller

OND 1893 Hampstead 1a 1283

fits with census and a Miller relative.

K

K Report 2 Nov 2008 16:10

Their first son John took her maiden name as her middle name

Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
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YORK John Miller Hampstead 1a 614

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 16:12

There's a Sandra Howison on here who possibly has Jeannie in her tree.

K

K Report 2 Nov 2008 16:13

I did find this possible John H in 1901 as a vistor at the Royal Pier? Hotel, but no sign in Scotland

Name: John H York
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Queens Park, London, England

Civil Parish: Sandown
Ecclesiastical parish: Sandown Christchurch
Town: Sandown
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Isle of Wight
Sub registration district: Brading
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 128
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Barrett 19
Eleanor Bradbury 24
Edith J Darley 46
Eda A Dorley 12
Emiline Dutson 28
Annie Edwards 32
Annie Henderson 44
Mary B Kells 51
Joseph Lank 19
Frances Lanyon 24
Ida Prusy 27
Florence Redknap 25
Frity Richter 18
Henry E C Sim 28
Hans Stuber 25
Margaret J Thomas 50
Alexander Thompson 51
Edward Von Prentin 22
John H York 12

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 16:14

Yes, I saw that one. There is a Scottish one too but not at Fort William.

Wonder what it is exactly Patricia wants to find out for her mum?

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 16:21

Dec1881 Newcastle on Tyne was the first marriage to Jane Taylor.

K

K Report 2 Nov 2008 16:21

I just found the Scottish one - as you say not near Fort William. I wonder if he was boarded out as below.

I suppose she needs to find out why he was adopted - probably the death of his mother and who his siblings were

1901

John York
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 477
Registration district: Drymen
Civil Parish: Drymen
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Fallie Kowe
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 5
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1901_154
Household Members: Name Age
James Allan 7
Elizabeth Bird 8
Martha Bird 11
Ewen Philips 24
James Philips 64
Margaret Philips 64
John York 12


Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 16:29

From FreeBMD

Births Dec 1884
York Robert Taylor Chelsea 1a 380

Births Jun 1886
YORK George Joseph Chelsea 1a 336
YORK William Leonard Chelsea 1a 3_2

Births Dec 1888
YORK John Henry Chelsea 1a 387

Births Jun 1890 York Arthur Thomas Chelsea 1a 388
(Arthur Thomas died JAS 1891)

Births Dec 1900 York Maggie Henry Hampstead 1a 609


William Leonard York married Lilas Wilkins Smith in Croydon
AMJ 1910 and they had a son OND 1911 in Croydon
William A S York

There's a William York death age 52 in Croydon in 1905 which could be John Henry's father - dates fit, and he was born in Croydon so could have moved back there.

Janice

Janice Report 2 Nov 2008 19:12

William in 1861

William York
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Broadwater
County/Island: Sussex
Ann Elizabeth York 3
Eliza York 5
George York 34
Jane York 39
William York 7