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Hi. I believe John Wingrove c1806 Norwood Green,Middx married a lady called Charlotte maybe maiden name Paine and had at least one son called John. Can anyone help me with any more details please.

connection? 1881

John WINGROVE Head M Male 55 Paddington, Middlesex, England Paviour
Amelia WINGROVE Wife M Female 57 Marylebone, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Snarsgate St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341014
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0064 / 51
Page Number 19

1841 census
Name: John Wingrove
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Hayes
Hundred: Elthorne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hayes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Wingrove 35
Charlotte Wingrove 35
John Wingrove 8
Ann Mary Wingrove 5
Josh N Wingrove 3
Thomas B Wingrove 3 Mo

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 656; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Hayes; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 17; Page: 27; Line: 22; GSU roll: 438774.

He is ticked at Not born in County!!

Thanks.The Hayes link certainly makes sense. I understood he was born Norwood Green,maybe Paddington could be the registry area.

1851 census-now listed as born Norwood
Name: John Wingrove
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlote
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwood, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Norwood
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:Ag lab

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hillingdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
John Wingrove 45
Charlote Wingrove 48
Ann Wingrove 14
Thomas Wingrove 9
Charlote Wingrove 7
Hannah Wingrove 4


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1697; Folio: 572; Page: 40; GSU roll: 193605.

Thanks-that certainly seems to be the one.

possible!
Name: Charlotte Wingrove
Estimated birth year: abt 1802
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 91
District: Uxbridge
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 26

1861 census Charlotte is now a widow
Name: Charlotte Wingrove
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Southall, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Norwood
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:Charwoman

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hayes
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Wingrove 60
Hannah Wingrove 14
William Gooby 21


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 770; Folio: 59; Page: 12; GSU roll: 542698

John -son of John and Charlotte must be the one who marries Lydia Watts -daughter of Thomas and Marria -Marrias maiden name unknown. Cheers

this may be Hannah and will give mmn
Name: Hannah Wingrove
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Uxbridge
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3
Page: 371

Shirley and Anne-Thank you both.

Could I be really cheeky and see if you can find me a marriage that will connect to this. Thomas Watts to Marria. Their daughter Lydia marries into the Wingrove family as John and Charlotte are her in-laws. Thomas and Marria were both born c1800 -Thomas in Uxbridge and Marria not sure.Thank you wonderful people

trying to put a time scale for them so this is Lydia's marriage
Name: Lydia Watts
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Staines
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 18
Spouse John Wingrove

Would have thought born c 1800 they would have married pre 1837 when the records started . have you tried family search site for them

may be them on the 1851 census
Name: Thomas Watts
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luke

Civil parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:14 Melton Place

Occupation:accountant

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 217
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Watts 54
Maria Watts 53 b Surrey
Henry Learing 21 SIL
Mary Ann Learing 19 -poss daughter then of Thomas!!>>>
Henry Learing 8 Mo
Annie Lavering 30
Rebecca Roan 22


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1496; Folio: 257; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87828-87829.

EDIT: not sure of this one ,bit of a difference in occupation from 1841 census !!! lol

Here they are on the 1841 census
Name: Thomas Watts
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hillingdon
Hundred: Elthorne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:Ag lab

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hillingdon
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Watts 40
Marria Watts 40
James Watts 15
Thomas Watts 13
George Watts 12
Hannah Watts 11
Allice Watts 9
Lidia Watts 7 >>>>>>>>>>
Robert Watts 3
John Watts 1




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 656; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Hillingdon; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: ; Page: 1; Line: 10; GSU roll: 438774.

Submitted Records from Family Search site so treat with caution as not verified by parish records
Thomas Watts Pedigree


Birth: About 1800 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1823 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Death: 12 SEP 1847 Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Burial:





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Wife
Mrs. Maria Watts Pedigree


Birth: About 1801 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Christening:
Marriage: About 1823 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Death: DEC 1872 Of, Hillingdon, London, England
Burial:





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Children

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1. William Watts Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1824 Hayes, London, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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2. James Watts Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1826 Hayes, London, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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3. Thomas Watts Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1828 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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4. Hannah Watts Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1830 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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5. Alice Watts Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1832 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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6. Lydia Watts Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1835 Hillingdon, London, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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7. Robert Watts Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1838 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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8. John Watts Pedigree
Male

Birth: About 1840 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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9. Sophia Watts Pedigree
Female

Birth: About 1843 Of Hillingdon, Hillingdon, London, England




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This will give you Maria's maiden name
Name: Sophia Watts
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Uxbridge
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3
Page: 308

Shirley,Thank you very much for your help-much appreciated