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Simon

Simon Report 9 Mar 2010 23:18

I Wonder if anybody could help me. i`m trying to find out about George Williams, he married Alice Maud Griffiths(known as Maud). She Was Born in1886. They lived in the cannock area and had a daughter called Marjorie. She was born in 1916 and married Ernest Stanforth who was born in1919 and died in 1994. They had a daughter called Susan Born around 1947

Barbara

Barbara Report 9 Mar 2010 23:30

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Griffiths Alice M Cannock 6b 997
Williams George Cannock 6b 997

patchem

patchem Report 9 Mar 2010 23:30

Births Dec 1916
Williams Marjorie M Griffiths Cannock 6b 811

Possible marriage:
Marriages Dec 1911
Griffiths Alice M Cannock 6b 997
Williams George Cannock 6b 997

patchem

patchem Report 9 Mar 2010 23:33

Do you know the occupation of George Williams, as I can find a coal miner in 1911, but it is a fairly common name?

Simon

Simon Report 9 Mar 2010 23:34

George Married Alice Soon After her Sister Died. I Do Not Know Her Name But He Was Married To Her First. Does That Make Sense?

Simon

Simon Report 9 Mar 2010 23:35

I`m Sorry But I Don`t Know His Occupation

patchem

patchem Report 9 Mar 2010 23:40

Is Alice Maud Griffiths definitely born in 1886? These are Staffordshire births:
Births Mar 1885
Griffiths Alice Maud R Dudley 6c 83
Births Mar 1887
GRIFFITHS Alice Maud Dudley 6c 37
Births Sep 1887
GRIFFITHS Alice Maud Wolverhampton 6b 4[09]5

patchem

patchem Report 9 Mar 2010 23:44

If George married twice, to Alice's sister first, then to Alice, in the 1911 census he will either still be married, or be a widower, as he married Alice at the end of 1911. Correct?

Simon

Simon Report 9 Mar 2010 23:47

Pretty Sure She Was Born in 1996, But We Know For A Fact That George Married Her Sister First. Unfortunately We Don`t Know Her Name, But We Do Know That She Died Before He Married Alice. Maybe aCensus Search Would Confirm This. I Have Looked But Cannot Find Anything.

Simon

Simon Report 9 Mar 2010 23:49

Correct To That Last Question!

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2010 00:04

Vague possibility for sister:
Marriages Dec 1906
GRIFFITHS Elizabeth Lichfield 6b 909
WILLIAMS George Lichfield 6b 909

followed by death:
Deaths Mar 1911
Williams Elizabeth 28 Cannock 6b 327

so Elizabeth born about 1883
which could give this family in 1891:

1891 England Census
Benjamin Griffiths Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Sedgley Civil parish: Tipton Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Benjamin Griffiths 34
Mary A Griffiths 35
Sarah A Griffiths 11
Elizabeth Griffiths 9
William Griffiths 7
Alice Griffiths 4
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2285; Folio 76; Page 25; GSU roll: 6097395.

If you get the marriage certificate for Alice and George you will get the names and occupations of their fathers, which will make life a whole lot easier, as all the above is mere speculation.

Pat

Simon

Simon Report 10 Mar 2010 00:27

Thank You So Much For Your Help. I Think the Marriage Certificate is The Way Forward.